Hi, I have this Rega Elicit R which was bought brand new and was working ok. However, after a year of low use it started having this problem of going silent with a click following fifteen to twenty minutes of music play. If I shutdown the amp and turn it back on after a few minutes, the amp would play but again become silent with a click after a few songs.
From the beginning the unit would run pretty hot, maybe some part inside has become weak. I am currently in a country where there is no Rega service center. Let me know if anyone has any idea about what is wrong with the Amp and how to get it fixed.
Thanks.
From the beginning the unit would run pretty hot, maybe some part inside has become weak. I am currently in a country where there is no Rega service center. Let me know if anyone has any idea about what is wrong with the Amp and how to get it fixed.
Thanks.
Class A amps always run hot. Perhaps you don't have clear air-flow around the heatsinks? Its almost certainly an over-temperature condition.
I couldn't find a service manual online, there is no doubt a procedure for setting the bias point which might help if that has drifted.
I couldn't find a service manual online, there is no doubt a procedure for setting the bias point which might help if that has drifted.
If you email and ask the service manager at Rega for a copy of the schematic and bias setting procedure according to the service manual, mention that you have a problem with overheating. They will likely help, as they have for problems with other, older and superseded models posted here. Then again, they may say it's too new to disclose details - I don't think they'd like it posted here for commercial kit sellers to simply rip-off either.
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Bonjour,
désolé je suis Français donc j'espère que vous me comprendrai et que vous pourrez me traduire.
Je fais le tour de tous les forums et je constate le même problème concernant cet ampli rega elicit R.
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Mon Rega Elicit r fait exactement la même chose et ce là m’énerve je l'ai acheté en novembre 2014. Il à commencé à coupé au bout de quelques heures au début 5 à 6 heures puis il est descendu à 3 heures entre temps je l'ai ramenai 2 fois où je l'ai acheté et il n'on rien trouvé puis pendant l'été 2018 il coupait au bout d'une heure seulement donc je l'ai ramené où je l'avais acheté cette fois ci ils ont envoyé l'ampli à l'usine Rega pour réparation. Apparemment ça viendrais des courant de repos. Mais maintenant mon amplis coupe de nouveau au bout de 4 à 5 heures d'écoutes. Est ce normal pour cet ampli? Ou est ce l'impédance de mes enceintes qui font 4 ohms? La surchauffe ce fait côté gauche. Je pense que cette ampli et fait pour des écoutes de courte duré. Rega à vu un schéma électronique trop ambitieux pour cet ampli. Si d'autres personnes pourrait me répondre si elles ont emmené leur matériel en réparation et ci ce problème et réapparut ça serait sympathique. Merci bonne journée.
désolé je suis Français donc j'espère que vous me comprendrai et que vous pourrez me traduire.
Je fais le tour de tous les forums et je constate le même problème concernant cet ampli rega elicit R.
My Rega Elicit R keeps cutting out! | pink fish media
Elicit-R overheating?- Vinyl Engine
Error | Steve Hoffman Music Forums ... on.764193 /
Mon Rega Elicit r fait exactement la même chose et ce là m’énerve je l'ai acheté en novembre 2014. Il à commencé à coupé au bout de quelques heures au début 5 à 6 heures puis il est descendu à 3 heures entre temps je l'ai ramenai 2 fois où je l'ai acheté et il n'on rien trouvé puis pendant l'été 2018 il coupait au bout d'une heure seulement donc je l'ai ramené où je l'avais acheté cette fois ci ils ont envoyé l'ampli à l'usine Rega pour réparation. Apparemment ça viendrais des courant de repos. Mais maintenant mon amplis coupe de nouveau au bout de 4 à 5 heures d'écoutes. Est ce normal pour cet ampli? Ou est ce l'impédance de mes enceintes qui font 4 ohms? La surchauffe ce fait côté gauche. Je pense que cette ampli et fait pour des écoutes de courte duré. Rega à vu un schéma électronique trop ambitieux pour cet ampli. Si d'autres personnes pourrait me répondre si elles ont emmené leur matériel en réparation et ci ce problème et réapparut ça serait sympathique. Merci bonne journée.
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Hello,
sorry i'm french so i hope you understand me and that you can translate me.
I go around all the forums and I see the same problem with this amp rega elicit R.
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My Rega Elicit r does exactly the same thing and it annoys me I bought it in November 2014. It started cutting after a few hours at the beginning 5 to 6 hours then it went down at 3 hours in the meantime I I brought it 2 times where I bought it and it did not find anything then during the summer of 2018 it cut after an hour only so I brought it back where I had bought it this time they have sent the amplifier to the Rega factory for repair. Apparently it would come from quiescent currents. But now my amp cuts again after 4 to 5 hours of listening. Is this normal for this amp? Or is it the impedance of my speakers that make 4 ohms? Overheating is on the left side. I think this amp is made for short listening. Rega saw an overly ambitious electronic diagram for this amp. If other people could answer me if they took their equipment for repair and here this problem and reappeared it would be nice. Thanks, have a good day.
If your amp can play music fifteen to twenty minutes and then thermal cut-out, it seems your amp is normal and it just overheat to cut-out for protection.
Maybe you place your amp in a poor air ventilation location. You can put the amp working in an open area to check if it still thermal cut-out or not.
Maybe you place your amp in a poor air ventilation location. You can put the amp working in an open area to check if it still thermal cut-out or not.
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The thermal cut out is not adjustable in Rega model Elicit R.
Bias is adjustable, but no indication of proper current in the schematic.
Bias is adjustable, but no indication of proper current in the schematic.
Hello, okay thank you.
How to get the correct current indications?
Is it normal for this amp to be cut like that? Can we really fix it?
I’d like to point out that my amp is in a ventilated area.
Could you give me the e-mail from Rega Corporation?
Given that this problem is known to Rega he should make us a big commercial move or a recall of their product as the car dealerships do.
Thanks for your help
How to get the correct current indications?
Is it normal for this amp to be cut like that? Can we really fix it?
I’d like to point out that my amp is in a ventilated area.
Could you give me the e-mail from Rega Corporation?
Given that this problem is known to Rega he should make us a big commercial move or a recall of their product as the car dealerships do.
Thanks for your help
As said I see no indication of proper bias adjustment for this model in the schematic.
But a request at Rega some time ago had the result that it is the same as in Brio-R
which is 35 mV dc after warm up on the respective test points, TR 43 and 45 on L
and TR 44 and 46 on the R channel. To add confusion these points are marked J 23, 24
and J 25 and 1 (!) also - all numbers for Elicit-R board as seen on factory file.
This corresponds to about 80 mA with two R22Ω emitter resistors. However I can not
confirm this as I do not have these amps in the workshop right now.
I do not recommend to carry out this adjustment if you are not skilled for the task.
But a request at Rega some time ago had the result that it is the same as in Brio-R
which is 35 mV dc after warm up on the respective test points, TR 43 and 45 on L
and TR 44 and 46 on the R channel. To add confusion these points are marked J 23, 24
and J 25 and 1 (!) also - all numbers for Elicit-R board as seen on factory file.
This corresponds to about 80 mA with two R22Ω emitter resistors. However I can not
confirm this as I do not have these amps in the workshop right now.
I do not recommend to carry out this adjustment if you are not skilled for the task.
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Hello,
This seems like a good thread to post my question. The other night I noticed after listening the right side of my Elicit r was much warmer than the left side. I found this thread and performed the adjustment as described by as_audio. The right channel easily adjusted up to 35mv at both test points. On the left channel though, the two resr points had different values. The difference was about 13mv so I split the difference between the test points.
Any suggestions on what to check? I don't have the schematic.
The amp sounds fine BTW.
This seems like a good thread to post my question. The other night I noticed after listening the right side of my Elicit r was much warmer than the left side. I found this thread and performed the adjustment as described by as_audio. The right channel easily adjusted up to 35mv at both test points. On the left channel though, the two resr points had different values. The difference was about 13mv so I split the difference between the test points.
Any suggestions on what to check? I don't have the schematic.
The amp sounds fine BTW.
Thanks for the quick response. I need to read my post before pressing submit.
There are two test points per channel. On the right channel both test points were 35mv. On the left channel one test point was 29mv, and the other left channel test point was 42mv. If I adjusted to 35mv at one test point, the other test point was 13mv off. They aren't equal.
There are two test points per channel. On the right channel both test points were 35mv. On the left channel one test point was 29mv, and the other left channel test point was 42mv. If I adjusted to 35mv at one test point, the other test point was 13mv off. They aren't equal.
Do you check test points to ground ?
I understand these are measured with respect to each other,
so you arrive at bias current of 80 mA using ohms law with
voltage of 35 mV over two emitter resistors R 0.22 ohms.
If you measure relative to ground you only check offset/bias
voltage difference which is not the point here. This is not valid
to check bias current.
However, output offset to ground should be low, say a few tens
of Millvolts maximum. Bias voltage should be stable after warm
up 35 mV.
I understand these are measured with respect to each other,
so you arrive at bias current of 80 mA using ohms law with
voltage of 35 mV over two emitter resistors R 0.22 ohms.
If you measure relative to ground you only check offset/bias
voltage difference which is not the point here. This is not valid
to check bias current.
However, output offset to ground should be low, say a few tens
of Millvolts maximum. Bias voltage should be stable after warm
up 35 mV.
I adjusted at one of the test points and set it at 35mv. Then checked the other test point on the same channel and it was 22mv. I then adjusted 22mv test point up to 35 mv which moved the opposing test point to 43mv.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.