Hi guys,
I'm trying to build a circuit to match NPN and PNP transistor pairs for my SymAsym amplifier. The basis for this exercise is the paper by Ian Fritz, see https://www.dragonflyalley.com/synth/images/TransistorMatching/ianFritz-transmat0011_144.pdf
Since I need +12V and -12V I want to use my lab power supply at 24V and use a virtual GND with voltage divider.
Here is for example the circuit for PNP matching made with LTSpice:
Voltage across the leads on the right side is measured for calculating the mismatch. R4 and R5 values should be as close as possible. I want to use 1% tolerance resistors, that's why I simulate with 99k and 101k.
The NPN version looks like this:
Due to the simple voltage divider the voltages are not +12/-12V but +13.18/-10.82 V for the PNP version and +10.82/-13.18 V for the NPN version.
I don't see a problem with that, except for the difference in current at which the transistor mismatch is measured.
Will this work? Am I missing something?
Best regards,
Jonas
I'm trying to build a circuit to match NPN and PNP transistor pairs for my SymAsym amplifier. The basis for this exercise is the paper by Ian Fritz, see https://www.dragonflyalley.com/synth/images/TransistorMatching/ianFritz-transmat0011_144.pdf
Since I need +12V and -12V I want to use my lab power supply at 24V and use a virtual GND with voltage divider.
Here is for example the circuit for PNP matching made with LTSpice:
Voltage across the leads on the right side is measured for calculating the mismatch. R4 and R5 values should be as close as possible. I want to use 1% tolerance resistors, that's why I simulate with 99k and 101k.
The NPN version looks like this:
Due to the simple voltage divider the voltages are not +12/-12V but +13.18/-10.82 V for the PNP version and +10.82/-13.18 V for the NPN version.
I don't see a problem with that, except for the difference in current at which the transistor mismatch is measured.
Will this work? Am I missing something?
Best regards,
Jonas
I use this basic schematic as this matches the VBe and Hfe simultaniously.
To increase the value of R8 increases the overal gain and the volt meter shows up imperfections like a dream. PNP test is shown for Q1 and Q2.
For NPN use an inverted schematic.
To increase the value of R8 increases the overal gain and the volt meter shows up imperfections like a dream. PNP test is shown for Q1 and Q2.
For NPN use an inverted schematic.
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Will this work? Am I missing something?
I dunno in the real world...
Here is your simulation...
Its surprising in simulation land just how dissimilar the transistors have to be to get a mismatch. Make your simulation dynamic so you can plot the voltages.
The 24 volt supply is replaced by a 0 to 24 volt rising value. Also because it is a simulation you make your virtual ground with 1 ohm or even 0.0001 ohm resistors to get a -/+12v supply but it seems to make little difference (apart from drawing 100,000 amps).
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A transistor matching circuit presented at BAF 2024 -
And here is Mark’s video -
I handed out PCBs for this BJT Simple Matcher jig, during talk#3 at Burning Amp yesterday. For those who couldn't attend, I've attached the Gerber .zip file below. You can send it to a PCB fab and have some boards shipped straight to you.
If you haven't yet ordered PCBs from an online fab, it's fairly easy and painless. Here's a brief explanation: Ordering PCBs online (using Gerber files): A walkthrough -- featuring the fab "JLCPCB"
Unfortunately, some of the figures in my "slide deck" didn't render very sharply on the projection system, so I've included the entire...
If you haven't yet ordered PCBs from an online fab, it's fairly easy and painless. Here's a brief explanation: Ordering PCBs online (using Gerber files): A walkthrough -- featuring the fab "JLCPCB"
Unfortunately, some of the figures in my "slide deck" didn't render very sharply on the projection system, so I've included the entire...
- Mark Johnson
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And here is Mark’s video -
Here are three examples of very sensitive matchers:
Some time ago, I presented a complementary matcher based on a novel principle:
The same principle applies equally well to identical transistors, and it brings the same advantages: direct comparison between the junctions, with the TUT's themselves performing the comparison and a substantial amplification.
To demonstrate the operation, I have chosen a BC547B and a BC847B, which should be identical but aren't in reality (sim)
This time, no cheat...
The same principle applies equally well to identical transistors, and it brings the same advantages: direct comparison between the junctions, with the TUT's themselves performing the comparison and a substantial amplification.
To demonstrate the operation, I have chosen a BC547B and a BC847B, which should be identical but aren't in reality (sim)
This time, no cheat...
- Elvee
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Transistor matchers are not uncommon: in fact they are all over the place, and generally work satisfactorily. A good example has been presented recently by Mark:
The vast majority however matches identical transistors. Complementary matchers are much rarer, and sometimes have issues:
It is possible to build something much better, whilst keeping things simple.
This...
The vast majority however matches identical transistors. Complementary matchers are much rarer, and sometimes have issues:
It is possible to build something much better, whilst keeping things simple.
This...
- Elvee
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- Forum: Solid State