Hey folks, I was unable to find any info on this topic on the 'net, anywhere. Found one thread here, but it mostly dealt with the high voltage circuit. Apologies if this has been answered somewhere!
First off, so happy. It may not seem like it in this post, but I'm really glad that this at least works, and HOLY MOLY, out of the 117 sets of headphones I own, I can see these becoming my favorite. HOLY SOUNDSTAGE, BATMAN! I did the "virtual haircut 7D audio" through the Floats, and man, when the phone rang in the track, I literally turned around to see where it was coming from.
I mainly want to ask about shortening the cable, and a channel imbalance.
I bought a set of Jecklin Float 2 with PS2 energizer. Essentially untested other than seller states it "didn't work". However, when I received it, I plugged it up and to my great pleasure, I was getting sound. Not perfect, but sound nonetheless. I assume he may not have known how to hook it up, how this needed 220v, etc...
However - I was getting about 6db less on the right side, and I was curious if it was due to the energizer or the drivers.
So, I swapped the channels at the plug to test the right driver before delving in to the energizer. Yes, I also swapped the bias voltage as well.
Sadly, the right side is still about 6db lower than the other. This would mean that the energizer is indeed working properly, because the left and right are swapped, and trouble still follows. Which is both good and bad. Part of me would prefer to fix the energizer instead, which should be easier... maybe?
3 questions:
#1: Any ideas on how to improve the imbalance? I mean, other than biasing the balance towards the right on my amp or dac, of course. I have ordered a new set of foam, and planning on a thorough cleaning also, maybe this'll help? I don't seem to have any specific "attenuated" frequencies, it just seems to be 6db attenuation across all frequencies, to my ear.
#2: Is it a wise idea to shorten the cable? I know that it's not wise to add length without being sure of what you're doing, but how about removing length? There's just too much cable, it's annoying. Not a big deal though.
#3: Any pitfalls I should be aware of when disassembling these? Other than being absolutely careful around the dust cover, anything else to keep in mind? I've worked on several ELS headphones, Koss, Stax, but never a Float... yet.
Very grateful!
-Goober
First off, so happy. It may not seem like it in this post, but I'm really glad that this at least works, and HOLY MOLY, out of the 117 sets of headphones I own, I can see these becoming my favorite. HOLY SOUNDSTAGE, BATMAN! I did the "virtual haircut 7D audio" through the Floats, and man, when the phone rang in the track, I literally turned around to see where it was coming from.
I mainly want to ask about shortening the cable, and a channel imbalance.
I bought a set of Jecklin Float 2 with PS2 energizer. Essentially untested other than seller states it "didn't work". However, when I received it, I plugged it up and to my great pleasure, I was getting sound. Not perfect, but sound nonetheless. I assume he may not have known how to hook it up, how this needed 220v, etc...
However - I was getting about 6db less on the right side, and I was curious if it was due to the energizer or the drivers.
So, I swapped the channels at the plug to test the right driver before delving in to the energizer. Yes, I also swapped the bias voltage as well.
Sadly, the right side is still about 6db lower than the other. This would mean that the energizer is indeed working properly, because the left and right are swapped, and trouble still follows. Which is both good and bad. Part of me would prefer to fix the energizer instead, which should be easier... maybe?
3 questions:
#1: Any ideas on how to improve the imbalance? I mean, other than biasing the balance towards the right on my amp or dac, of course. I have ordered a new set of foam, and planning on a thorough cleaning also, maybe this'll help? I don't seem to have any specific "attenuated" frequencies, it just seems to be 6db attenuation across all frequencies, to my ear.
#2: Is it a wise idea to shorten the cable? I know that it's not wise to add length without being sure of what you're doing, but how about removing length? There's just too much cable, it's annoying. Not a big deal though.
#3: Any pitfalls I should be aware of when disassembling these? Other than being absolutely careful around the dust cover, anything else to keep in mind? I've worked on several ELS headphones, Koss, Stax, but never a Float... yet.
Very grateful!
-Goober
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Jecklin Float Gen 2 Electrostatic & Jecklin PS-2 | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org
New Jecklin Float QA !!! | Page 47 | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org
Look at a photo of someone wearing one and---
Communications Officer ( original Star Trek series)- Nyota Uhura -USS Enterprise -
shhhhh ! Captain Kirk I am in communication with the Klingons .
New Jecklin Float QA !!! | Page 47 | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org
Look at a photo of someone wearing one and---
Communications Officer ( original Star Trek series)- Nyota Uhura -USS Enterprise -
shhhhh ! Captain Kirk I am in communication with the Klingons .
LOL! Thanks man! Sadly, I've seen those threads, and one has to do with the new Floats, and the other doesn't have the info I'm looking for, but I'm grateful for the cool pics regardless =)
Cheers!
GadgetGoober
Cheers!
GadgetGoober
So its the original mark 1 version I will keep on looking GG.
I never owned a pair or repaired them and in the UK they got some "not nice " comments due to the design and funnily enough that stopped a lot of people buying them in the UK.
I never owned a pair or repaired them and in the UK they got some "not nice " comments due to the design and funnily enough that stopped a lot of people buying them in the UK.
Thank you!!! Just curious, what were the comments? Because almost everyone I've seen comment on these have been impressed, mostly. I can say that even with the 6db imbalance on the right side, It's still a miraculous piece of kit. Curious to know the pitfalls and points of contention.
I have, however, seen some older reviews that state that the drivers can just "give up" out of nowhere, which I'd assume that's a wiring issue. I don't typically see electrostatic drivers just "fail" out of nowhere. Even punctured drivers still "play".
I have, however, seen some older reviews that state that the drivers can just "give up" out of nowhere, which I'd assume that's a wiring issue. I don't typically see electrostatic drivers just "fail" out of nowhere. Even punctured drivers still "play".
It was the "British " conception at the time as to the style, not helped by the UK "golden ears " passing adverse style comments on them in the large number of hi-fi magazines of the day.
Its largely down to style differences between the USA and the UK same auto-mobile models in the USA are different from UK designs ,maybe we are not yet fully "Americanized " yet - still like European styles ?
When I find my hi-fi choice year book of that era I will give you the comments .
Its largely down to style differences between the USA and the UK same auto-mobile models in the USA are different from UK designs ,maybe we are not yet fully "Americanized " yet - still like European styles ?
When I find my hi-fi choice year book of that era I will give you the comments .
Right on! Thank you. I can understand the vehicle analogy - left my old hobby of oddball vehicle collections (Rover SD1, Peugeot 504, Sterling 827sli, Merkur XR4Ti (Ford Sierra), the list goes on!)... all pretty much "orphaned" cars here in the States due to a similar phenomenon 😀
Ford Sierra XRi ?--- I owned a red one , if I remember that far back it would do 140mph + big rear spoiler- 2.8 engine ,in my case the engine was made in Germany .
I owned quite a few Fords , cheap spares-easy to maintain, I had a Mark 111 Cortina that looked a bit "American " big and broad.
I owned quite a few Fords , cheap spares-easy to maintain, I had a Mark 111 Cortina that looked a bit "American " big and broad.
Yes! That's the one. The ones we got here in the States have a 4cyl turbo 2.3L. Also made in Germany. instead of the XRi, we have the XR4Ti, the T denoting Turbo
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I still have a Ford -- gone small in my old age but never lost the liking for "a bit of speed " .
I have a 4 year old Ford Fiesta ST its got a turbo and its "small " 1.6L engine can do about 140 mph at around /near 200bhp .
Still not as powerful as the Sierra but "speedy " ,also had a Ford Focus ST 170 that was quite powerful but UK road tax was terrible for it so sold it to an auto scrap yard .
Funnily enough because the Fiesta is very economical ,its classified as "Green " by the UK government --that halved the road tax in one strike.
I have a 4 year old Ford Fiesta ST its got a turbo and its "small " 1.6L engine can do about 140 mph at around /near 200bhp .
Still not as powerful as the Sierra but "speedy " ,also had a Ford Focus ST 170 that was quite powerful but UK road tax was terrible for it so sold it to an auto scrap yard .
Funnily enough because the Fiesta is very economical ,its classified as "Green " by the UK government --that halved the road tax in one strike.