I do not have a picture yet (let me know if posting one will help and I will take one) , but I blew a full range 3" driver (with a Square fascia) that was housed in a satellite cube in a Cambridge soundworks "Microworks" shielded stereo speaker system. It comes with a Sub that has a 6" woofer:
http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/pdf/manuals/microworks.pdf
Creative (who owns CSW) is not selling the driver for me to replace, they are asking me to ship the speaker to them and the they will charge $50 plus parts plus return shipping... What a rip off!... the whole system is probably not worth that much!
Can anyone help with what driver I can use, I do not mind to sub another driver even if I need to replace both drivers and play with the crossover, I just want to make sure it fits in the case (and preferably in the 4 screw holes already in there.)
Any pointers to any reseller or anyone who stocks many Full range 3' drivers would help too. thanks!
K-amps
http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/pdf/manuals/microworks.pdf
Creative (who owns CSW) is not selling the driver for me to replace, they are asking me to ship the speaker to them and the they will charge $50 plus parts plus return shipping... What a rip off!... the whole system is probably not worth that much!
Can anyone help with what driver I can use, I do not mind to sub another driver even if I need to replace both drivers and play with the crossover, I just want to make sure it fits in the case (and preferably in the 4 screw holes already in there.)
Any pointers to any reseller or anyone who stocks many Full range 3' drivers would help too. thanks!
K-amps
Barring being able to find the driver, have you poked around on Ebay? A lot of times stuff like this comes up on there for sale.
Do you mean like the raw driver or the whole system? I'd hate to buy a system to strip it for parts...
Well, you might be able to find both. Most likely you'll find someone who has the cubes but no woofer.. That kind of stuff.
Good luck!
Good luck!
If you find out, let me know. I havea Cambridge Soundworks Model 3 (I think it's called). It's the one with the satelite speakers that pack up inside the sub case for toting around. Same problem. One bad speaker. The stinkers want fifty bucks to replace the driver that probably doesn't cost them over a buck fifty. I can afford to blow fifty bucks, but I resent being taken advantage of that way. Don't they want repeat business? I'll never buy anything from that place again.
I'll bet it's the same driver. Mine says,
High Quality Loudspeakers
LPB 80/19/120FS
49101 10285/01
4 ohm 15 watt
42466
Made in Germany
I't three inches square.
I'll bet it's the same driver. Mine says,
High Quality Loudspeakers
LPB 80/19/120FS
49101 10285/01
4 ohm 15 watt
42466
Made in Germany
I't three inches square.
Pic attached of my "Stinker" yes it does smell after burning up....
The 97/03 is prolly date of manufacture cause I got mine in Nov 97.
This is what I will probably get. Not optimal but so fat the only driver of similar size I have found.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=299-430
Its a 9 ohm load, but heck it will fit and I use an external amplifier and separate sub anyway. I will need to tweak the crossover, but hey, those guys are not getting my $50
The 97/03 is prolly date of manufacture cause I got mine in Nov 97.
This is what I will probably get. Not optimal but so fat the only driver of similar size I have found.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=299-430
Its a 9 ohm load, but heck it will fit and I use an external amplifier and separate sub anyway. I will need to tweak the crossover, but hey, those guys are not getting my $50
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If you don't mind mucking with the crossover, some obvious replacement wideband 3" drivers would be:
Fostex FF85 or FE87
Aurasound NS3-194
Tangband - various
Audax - various
These are mostly 8 ohm, which would be OK but they might not play as loud.
Try madisound.com.
Oops. Almost forgot the visaton F8 SC4. Which may be the same driver? Would need to be ordered from germany. http://www.visaton.de/english/artikel/art_212_1_3.html
GB
Fostex FF85 or FE87
Aurasound NS3-194
Tangband - various
Audax - various
These are mostly 8 ohm, which would be OK but they might not play as loud.
Try madisound.com.
Oops. Almost forgot the visaton F8 SC4. Which may be the same driver? Would need to be ordered from germany. http://www.visaton.de/english/artikel/art_212_1_3.html
GB
What about the HI-VI B3S 3" from Parts Express.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-427&DID=7
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-427&DID=7
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DC Dave said:
That looks like a better replacement! However my custom sub is crossed at 100Hz and I also have a tweeter on top of my sat (ala B&W style ;-) so the Vifa with 90Hz to 7kHz seems to be my ticket.
The Hi-Vi seems a better sub to the original.
hi
hi
those are all chinese made run of the mill speakers all round copper wire 2 layer with a ok surround profile ( of different materials - the materials hardly make a difference in that size and application )in a 0.5 to 1 mm x max set up
they all perform more or less the same - the wire guage is the only thing that makes a difference in out put
just buy the cheapest comp speakers the ones which come without a sub unit - just the sats and a amp & pull out the driver and replace
suranjan das gupta
transducer design engineer
hi
those are all chinese made run of the mill speakers all round copper wire 2 layer with a ok surround profile ( of different materials - the materials hardly make a difference in that size and application )in a 0.5 to 1 mm x max set up
they all perform more or less the same - the wire guage is the only thing that makes a difference in out put
just buy the cheapest comp speakers the ones which come without a sub unit - just the sats and a amp & pull out the driver and replace
suranjan das gupta
transducer design engineer
Suranjan,
Are you saying the Vifa and the Hi-Vi will sound the same? (regardless of who makes them). The specs are insanely worlds apart....
Are you saying the Vifa and the Hi-Vi will sound the same? (regardless of who makes them). The specs are insanely worlds apart....
I've a set of Monsoons available, but they are only 2 3/4"
dave
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dave
Can you measure the screw holes diagonally (not Diagon Allyey) 😀 and also across one side... in mm please.
thansk!
thansk!
k - amps
hi
we are not in this forum to skew english language , if the specs of drivers are different they will ofcourse sound different have totally diff application etc. etc . its upon the sence of a engineer not to mention such trivials
other than language refences
ne ways my direction was towards the cambridge audio driver for which this thread has been intended
and a easy cheap replacement to help people save money - as this was the most common widest topic goping on
not on the vifa & other expensive drivers - which are not intenede for mass installation therefore with a stricter quality control at the production stage -
suranjan
transducer design engineer
hi
we are not in this forum to skew english language , if the specs of drivers are different they will ofcourse sound different have totally diff application etc. etc . its upon the sence of a engineer not to mention such trivials
other than language refences
ne ways my direction was towards the cambridge audio driver for which this thread has been intended
and a easy cheap replacement to help people save money - as this was the most common widest topic goping on
not on the vifa & other expensive drivers - which are not intenede for mass installation therefore with a stricter quality control at the production stage -
suranjan
transducer design engineer
Re: k - amps
hunter audio said:
Some of us are.... look at the way you typed the word sense, that certainly constitutes "skewing" of the English Language.
The above statement is not in line with what you said earlier, where you alluded to "Materials sounding the same" etc... you may be an engineer but that statement put you down.
Who cares if I use Vifa's? Thats my problem.... I started the thread and am pretty aware what my intentions were. They were NOT to replace with a cheap driver per se, but were about not bowing to manufacturer extortion because they will put in a el-chepo driver that costs less than $4 and charge $65-$75 bucks for it.
Sir kindly do not give anymore advices or comments on this thread for they are not welcome, I just find your arrogant tone not to my liking. This is just a request and you may do what you wish,
regards,
scrutanise
hi
an engineer is known to scrutanise and thru this comes a perfectionist - i also wrote that at this size and escursions the material of surround will not make a difference to the sound - by which it is taken for granted i am talking of the tonal quality & not specs
like
i can use a stiff surround in the same material - which will totally change the specs of the driver - in a different hardness of the material itself - which will change the specs of the driver ( when different hardness of the same material is used )
therefore specs make a driver different from each other
another thing is starting a thread does not give you the patent rights of what comes in or the thought s it may invoke and any constructive information arrived from it
i can answear a popular question here - on how the copper cap on bose jewel cubes stabilize inductance - improves 3 rd harmonics - then if i do
do you think you have the right to tell you will decide what i put here
does that show my arrogance or your naive
hi
an engineer is known to scrutanise and thru this comes a perfectionist - i also wrote that at this size and escursions the material of surround will not make a difference to the sound - by which it is taken for granted i am talking of the tonal quality & not specs
like
i can use a stiff surround in the same material - which will totally change the specs of the driver - in a different hardness of the material itself - which will change the specs of the driver ( when different hardness of the same material is used )
therefore specs make a driver different from each other
another thing is starting a thread does not give you the patent rights of what comes in or the thought s it may invoke and any constructive information arrived from it
i can answear a popular question here - on how the copper cap on bose jewel cubes stabilize inductance - improves 3 rd harmonics - then if i do
do you think you have the right to tell you will decide what i put here
does that show my arrogance or your naive
oh by the way
the hi vi research woofer pic above
has a chinese cone - usd .3 or so
frame - 0.11 usd
mags - 0.4 usd ( both )
spider - 0.06 usd
the shielding cap - 0.11 usd
the magnet plates - 0.3 usd
the voice coil and the adapter cup to attach the coil to the cone - 1.0 usd
adhesives / carton box misc / overheads - 2.0 usd
cost - 4.28 usd - maximum if made in u.s.
- in india / china far cheaper
suranjan
transducer design engineer
the hi vi research woofer pic above
has a chinese cone - usd .3 or so
frame - 0.11 usd
mags - 0.4 usd ( both )
spider - 0.06 usd
the shielding cap - 0.11 usd
the magnet plates - 0.3 usd
the voice coil and the adapter cup to attach the coil to the cone - 1.0 usd
adhesives / carton box misc / overheads - 2.0 usd
cost - 4.28 usd - maximum if made in u.s.
- in india / china far cheaper
suranjan
transducer design engineer
and
i used to manufacture amps too made upto 200 w rms sine mosfet power amps
instead of calling names 100000 miles away why dont you come and have a open discussion on knowledge
in amps - circuit designing - circuits - pcb designing and manufacture
plastic mould making - for the various fittings
metal chassis making with a pressure cast front dail (high end)
or any thing on loudspeakers - moving coil tech
suranjan das gupta
i used to manufacture amps too made upto 200 w rms sine mosfet power amps
instead of calling names 100000 miles away why dont you come and have a open discussion on knowledge
in amps - circuit designing - circuits - pcb designing and manufacture
plastic mould making - for the various fittings
metal chassis making with a pressure cast front dail (high end)
or any thing on loudspeakers - moving coil tech
suranjan das gupta
You would'nt be the first one to think they know it all, and you wont be the last.
I can find several inaccuracies in the 3 posts you wrote but I do not have the patience to deal with your types. As I said, your "help" is not needed by me on this thread, please feel free to help anyone else, (if they ask).
PS: I called you no names, I merely pointed out to your arrogant attitude which was disconcerting (which you have proved again and again and again.)
I can find several inaccuracies in the 3 posts you wrote but I do not have the patience to deal with your types. As I said, your "help" is not needed by me on this thread, please feel free to help anyone else, (if they ask).
PS: I called you no names, I merely pointed out to your arrogant attitude which was disconcerting (which you have proved again and again and again.)
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