Sounds just like a thing not to do, but internet is full of people that had done that, with evidence and it sure does remove alot of noise.
On the other hand internet is full of people suggesting not to use anything other than records cleaner or some cleaning kits.
I have some old 7" records that I'm willing to use for testing and if I will get good results repeatedly I'm willing to use it on some records that I had bought recently. I believe that there are particles of paper degrading... Albums smell like mold. There is alot of surface noise, but visualy records look ok, soap and distiled water helped a bit, but not much.
Before trying I want to hear your opinions?
On the other hand internet is full of people suggesting not to use anything other than records cleaner or some cleaning kits.
I have some old 7" records that I'm willing to use for testing and if I will get good results repeatedly I'm willing to use it on some records that I had bought recently. I believe that there are particles of paper degrading... Albums smell like mold. There is alot of surface noise, but visualy records look ok, soap and distiled water helped a bit, but not much.
Before trying I want to hear your opinions?
Tried it once, was not convinced for the effort as it's a giant pita to get all the glue back off, but do it once for lols.
Yes, it works pretty well.
Also a serious PITA.
I have a VPI vacuum cleaner, it’s better than glue.
I also have an ultrasonic cleaner, and that’s better than any and all the previous methods I’ve ever used by a wide margin. If you have a reasonable collection, I’d stongly recommend skipping straight to ultrasonic. I have a unit from Cleanervinyl.com, my favorite aspect of his product is they clip onto standard ultrasonic cleaning tanks available from many suppliers.
Also a serious PITA.
I have a VPI vacuum cleaner, it’s better than glue.
I also have an ultrasonic cleaner, and that’s better than any and all the previous methods I’ve ever used by a wide margin. If you have a reasonable collection, I’d stongly recommend skipping straight to ultrasonic. I have a unit from Cleanervinyl.com, my favorite aspect of his product is they clip onto standard ultrasonic cleaning tanks available from many suppliers.
Wood glue is PVA or worst, other compounds like PU and shouldn't be used for that purpose.
Methyl cellulose glue (for wall paper) is normally safe and effective, provided it is the plain vanilla version. Improved variants, including reinforcers or adhesion promoters should not be used.
When used properly, the methyl cellulose is safe and effective. First try on a value-less sample to get acquainted with it, and when you feel expert enough, do it for real
Methyl cellulose glue (for wall paper) is normally safe and effective, provided it is the plain vanilla version. Improved variants, including reinforcers or adhesion promoters should not be used.
When used properly, the methyl cellulose is safe and effective. First try on a value-less sample to get acquainted with it, and when you feel expert enough, do it for real
I tried it too. Dilute 50/50 with water or it won't go in the grooves, brush apply two coates and make sure you've got good coverage on lead in/out or you'll be left with residue that's impossible to peel. It can take a while to dry thoroughly and you need to make sure the LP is completely level too. When removed you can feel the grooves in the dried glue, so it definitely penetrates.
Overall, not any more effective than most other methods and a lot more trouble than most of them. But give it a try on something you don't care about and see for yourself...
Overall, not any more effective than most other methods and a lot more trouble than most of them. But give it a try on something you don't care about and see for yourself...
Be careful as you need to get EVERY bit of glue off like if you have even one little bit stuck in a groove it could potentially rip your needle off.
I've used wood glue on other random stuff and it was acidic and started corrosion but I'm not sure if acid effects records much??? maybe if the ph level was real high it may effect the surface.
I've used wood glue on other random stuff and it was acidic and started corrosion but I'm not sure if acid effects records much??? maybe if the ph level was real high it may effect the surface.
About 30 years or so ago there was a product that was designed to be used this way. It smelt of acetic acid when drying and (to me at least) looked too much like cum for comfort. But it was fairly effective if a little difficult to remove if applied thinly. For the life of me I can't remember the name. But it was pretty expensive and just disappeared from the UK.
You can get pH 7 archival quality PVA glue. Never had the need, but it's there...
A good idea is to place a strip of paper on the top of the goop layer when it is still wet: when you need to pull out the dried film, it makes things much easier
Yep, I had seen both with and without a strip on youtube. It sure makes the job alot easier.
I usually just use a spin clean to clean my records, but I had one that would not come clean, it looked spotless but it was super noisy. It wasn't a very expensive record and I was just going to toss it but figured I'd give the wood glue trick a try. I used Titebond did not dilute it, just coated the whole record with it, let it dry and peeled it off. I was absolutely amazed at how well it worked.
I also ussualy spin clean before playing, dog hair makes it pita for me. But recent few records I bough are more noisy that I would prefer. Soap & distiled didn't help much.
If you have a cheap record that's loud with pops and clicks give the wood glue trick a try, it worked great for me. Obviously keep the glue off the label. I'm now confident enough that I'd try it on a more expensive record. The caveat is that if it's a record you can replace for like $7 is it really worth it? But I was curious so gave it a whirl.
I have a Bruce Springsteen, Ghost Of Tom Joad record that has a weird bass pulse all thru the song The Ghost of Tom Joad. I think it's a bad pressing but I'll give the wood glue trick a try on that and see if it works. Seriously why not try it? Record is garbage otherwise.
I recall a thread here many years ago on this, or perhaps it was on Audiokarma - possibly both have such threads. I recall trying this back around the time of the start of the huge, long ultrasonic cleaning thread, so the other thread would have been around then. It's a little messy and takes many hours for the glue to dry. It seemed to work well, but I've mostly used a DIY setup with a shop-vac type vacuum.
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Like your plans I tried it on and old record. I was shocked at how much glue you need to put on so it will peel off like the YouTube videos. Too thin and it took me ages to pick it out of the grooves. I concluded it was going to work out expensive and terribly messy to clean a record collection. Also the risk of leaving set glue in a groove and damaging an expensive cartridge was too high. Aside to this I was recently donated a collection of nearly 200 records which had been stored in a garage near the beach. The majority of them were full of sand so I was reluctant to use anything that involved wiping or spreading so invested in an ultrasonic bath. I repurposed the rotisserie motor from the BBQ and cleaned 5 albums at a time. The results were stunning and well worth the cost, I would say at least 2/3 of the records came up like new.
Maybe you can try a product like first contact? We use it for cleaning precision laser optics at work. It is similar to the wood glue idea but it's made for this purpose and it pulls off cleanly. I don't know how well it would work on a plastic substrate like a record but you can always ask the manufacturer.
https://www.photoniccleaning.com/Kits-s/112.htm
https://www.photoniccleaning.com/Kits-s/112.htm
You have to use multiple coats to form a thick layer. But PVA is cheap, 5ltrs for £15... It's slow to dry and to clean both sides can take forever.
