I have quite a bit of Belden 89207 for balanced or unbalanced interconnects. It's the cable that was all the rage in DIY a few years back. All teflon, stranded copper conductors, was made popular by Jon Risch. Probably the best non-boutique interconnect cable made. I have approx. 150 ft.
Jon_Risch's Web Site
I'd like to sell some of it, how about $2 per foot.
Shipping will be USPS flat rate...can probably fit 15 feet in a USPS flat rate envelope for $8 shipping. US only, shipping international will get expensive.
Anyone interested?
Jon_Risch's Web Site
I'd like to sell some of it, how about $2 per foot.
Shipping will be USPS flat rate...can probably fit 15 feet in a USPS flat rate envelope for $8 shipping. US only, shipping international will get expensive.
Anyone interested?
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Hikari,
It was my understanding that the
Belden 89259 was the better cable for interconnects. If you
scroll down you will find that Jon Risch gives the 89529
his highest recommendation for the 89259 cable.
Even some of the notable members here have used
the Belden 89259 cable as their "exemplar"
in their patent and patent applications.
I think the 89207 23pf/foot (conductor to shield) &14pf/ft (conductor to conductor)
so that would yield 30pf/ft (capacitance in parallel is added).
is higher compared to the 89259 18pf/ft (59pf/m)
If you scroll down about 1/2 way down you will see
Jon's recommendation as:
"Belden 89259, My highest recommended multi-purpose audio cable,
coaxial. Can be used for interconnects, speaker cable, and digital
cables."
The Belden 89207 the best "twisted pair".
Finally from this section:
"Digital Interconnects, 75 Ohm SP/DIF format using BNC or RCA
connectors.
Belden 89259 is 75 ohm impedance, and makes an excellent digital
interconnect. I recommend adding an additional shield of copper
braid over the teflon jacket, and hard grounding it at the source
end, and ground the other end of the braid via a 0.01 uF ceramic
disc capacitor. The additional shielding minimizes noise pickup."
If you continue scrolling down you will see mention of Belden 89702 again.
Cheers,
It was my understanding that the
Belden 89259 was the better cable for interconnects. If you
scroll down you will find that Jon Risch gives the 89529
his highest recommendation for the 89259 cable.
Even some of the notable members here have used
the Belden 89259 cable as their "exemplar"
in their patent and patent applications.
I think the 89207 23pf/foot (conductor to shield) &14pf/ft (conductor to conductor)
so that would yield 30pf/ft (capacitance in parallel is added).
is higher compared to the 89259 18pf/ft (59pf/m)
If you scroll down about 1/2 way down you will see
Jon's recommendation as:
"Belden 89259, My highest recommended multi-purpose audio cable,
coaxial. Can be used for interconnects, speaker cable, and digital
cables."
The Belden 89207 the best "twisted pair".
Finally from this section:
"Digital Interconnects, 75 Ohm SP/DIF format using BNC or RCA
connectors.
Belden 89259 is 75 ohm impedance, and makes an excellent digital
interconnect. I recommend adding an additional shield of copper
braid over the teflon jacket, and hard grounding it at the source
end, and ground the other end of the braid via a 0.01 uF ceramic
disc capacitor. The additional shielding minimizes noise pickup."
If you continue scrolling down you will see mention of Belden 89702 again.
Cheers,
Well, 89207 can be used balanced or single ended. And I think most would agree that coaxial cables like the 89259 are not used in many high end designs. If look at all the boutique cables out there very few are coaxial.
Honestly, I have not used the 89207 (I haven't had time to make up some interconnects yet) but have used the Teflon Triax version of 89259 which is 88232. Also I have used 1505F. I think both sound good but have a mid-bass emphasis. I am using bullet connectors.
Just for reference I've had everything from Monster to Audioquest to Magnet wire to 32G pure silver wire in my system.
Word on the street its 89207 is better in the highs with less mid-bass emphasis. I'll find out soon.
Belden Interconnects by Mikey
Honestly, I have not used the 89207 (I haven't had time to make up some interconnects yet) but have used the Teflon Triax version of 89259 which is 88232. Also I have used 1505F. I think both sound good but have a mid-bass emphasis. I am using bullet connectors.
Just for reference I've had everything from Monster to Audioquest to Magnet wire to 32G pure silver wire in my system.
Word on the street its 89207 is better in the highs with less mid-bass emphasis. I'll find out soon.
Belden Interconnects by Mikey
Hikari1,
Thanks for the information. It would be nice if mikey and others would
actually measure the cables over time, if it can be heard, then it should be
able to be measured, we hope.
It would be interesting to hear the difference between the 89259:coax vs. 88232:triax.
Good luck with everything. I might actually be interested in making a comparison
between the three, 89259, 89207, 88232. I have 89529 coax interconnects.
I do have I do have double shielded twisted pair, the heavy duty mil-spec
silver plated copper teflon wire twisted, then shielded with silver, then
teflon wrapped and shielded with silver again.
But I need the ends...
go figure.
Thanks for the information. It would be nice if mikey and others would
actually measure the cables over time, if it can be heard, then it should be
able to be measured, we hope.
It would be interesting to hear the difference between the 89259:coax vs. 88232:triax.
Good luck with everything. I might actually be interested in making a comparison
between the three, 89259, 89207, 88232. I have 89529 coax interconnects.
I do have I do have double shielded twisted pair, the heavy duty mil-spec
silver plated copper teflon wire twisted, then shielded with silver, then
teflon wrapped and shielded with silver again.
But I need the ends...
go figure.
Also, I have found the that interconnects are highly gear dependent, and capacitance can matter or not matter depending on your other gear. I run an amp w/ 100K input impedance and really high bandwidth (Pass F5) and a preamp with lots of grunt (150ma bias, class A) and cable drive. So capacitance doesn't hurt me much. And what else can you measure? Resistance doesn't tell you much.
But in general I would say the Belden Teflon coax (89259, 88232) is very warm sounding and perhaps not the most detailed or biggest sound stage. But it has a nice round sound that a lot of people will like. The 89207 should sound different and perhaps more like current boutique-type interconnects.
But at $3 I think it's quite a deal. Spool cost is about $5 ft new and you have to buy 100ft.
But in general I would say the Belden Teflon coax (89259, 88232) is very warm sounding and perhaps not the most detailed or biggest sound stage. But it has a nice round sound that a lot of people will like. The 89207 should sound different and perhaps more like current boutique-type interconnects.
But at $3 I think it's quite a deal. Spool cost is about $5 ft new and you have to buy 100ft.
I only have 60 feet or so left. Act now if you want some.
I got a chance to try this cable as an unbalanced interconnect using Bullet RCA's. Sounds very good and quite unlike the 89259/88232. Less laid back, more upfront and dynamic (and detailed) and overall less of a "veiled" sound. If you want warm, slow and less extended (both in bass and treble) I would stay with 89259/88232 coax. If you want lit up, fast, extended and forward the 89207 is a better choice.
I do not have balanced gear so I have not tried it balanced.
I got a chance to try this cable as an unbalanced interconnect using Bullet RCA's. Sounds very good and quite unlike the 89259/88232. Less laid back, more upfront and dynamic (and detailed) and overall less of a "veiled" sound. If you want warm, slow and less extended (both in bass and treble) I would stay with 89259/88232 coax. If you want lit up, fast, extended and forward the 89207 is a better choice.
I do not have balanced gear so I have not tried it balanced.
I'll take whats left. How much to ship to 94577?
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Thanks,
Don
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