A few days ago I listened to this vinyl again, considered transgressive, in fact, it is called "Carmina Burana - Profane Songs" created by composer Carl Orff. Directed by Fritz Mahler.
It's a vinyl from the sixties, I think, at most from the seventies. (the year of release is not listed on the LP released here, by a label that no longer exists, DM. (Diffusion Musical- Stereofonico, 90662, from the Vanguard repertoire)
A friend of those years made me listen to it and ipso facto I bought it.
It is in immaculate condition, has been used with MM cartridges with low tracking forces and I am very careful with vinyl. With my current sound system it sounds wonderful, but out of curiosity I thought there might be some interpretation now that I might like better and I looked it up on the web.
Tidal returned only one result, Carmina Burana directed by Leopoldo Stokowsky. Next to my LP, the choruses are muted, very far away and unintelligible, there is no dynamic range, everything sounds lifeless, boring. This LP that I have was used a lot around here to test sound systems, maybe it was something spread worldwide, I don't know, but it's ideal. The veterans here could tell me, it would be good. The impacts of the cymbals, the choirs, the dynamic range, the voices of tenor John Ferrante, soprano Sylvia Stalman, and baritone Morley Meredith, all excellent.
So, in my search, luckily I found a version on YT with a performance that I consider as excellent as the one on my vinyl. It is only a part, the "Goddess of Fortune", unfortunately .... 🙁
Great show, I would have liked to be there !
So I leave you the link, enjoy it, those who already know the work and those who don't yet.
Translations from Latin to various languages are available on the web. I consider it essential to know what it is.
It's a vinyl from the sixties, I think, at most from the seventies. (the year of release is not listed on the LP released here, by a label that no longer exists, DM. (Diffusion Musical- Stereofonico, 90662, from the Vanguard repertoire)
A friend of those years made me listen to it and ipso facto I bought it.
It is in immaculate condition, has been used with MM cartridges with low tracking forces and I am very careful with vinyl. With my current sound system it sounds wonderful, but out of curiosity I thought there might be some interpretation now that I might like better and I looked it up on the web.
Tidal returned only one result, Carmina Burana directed by Leopoldo Stokowsky. Next to my LP, the choruses are muted, very far away and unintelligible, there is no dynamic range, everything sounds lifeless, boring. This LP that I have was used a lot around here to test sound systems, maybe it was something spread worldwide, I don't know, but it's ideal. The veterans here could tell me, it would be good. The impacts of the cymbals, the choirs, the dynamic range, the voices of tenor John Ferrante, soprano Sylvia Stalman, and baritone Morley Meredith, all excellent.
So, in my search, luckily I found a version on YT with a performance that I consider as excellent as the one on my vinyl. It is only a part, the "Goddess of Fortune", unfortunately .... 🙁
Great show, I would have liked to be there !
So I leave you the link, enjoy it, those who already know the work and those who don't yet.
Translations from Latin to various languages are available on the web. I consider it essential to know what it is.
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You mention Tidal. It seems like the streaming services are way behind when it comes to classical music.
Tom
Tom
If I enter "Carmina Burana" as a search term in Tidal, and hit "Albums" at the result, I get 238 hits.
Tidal has a great selection of classical, but its search function stinks...
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Tidal has a great selection of classical, but its search function stinks...
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I think it's a problem with the search engine, as TNT says, it has happened to me many times that the topics searched for are there, but the search engine shows them partially and you have to search by exchanging authors, topic names, performers. etc.
I had found that many in "albums", but since I couldn't find the version I own of Fritz Mahler, I decided to search the web. And the YT video of the Serbian Director Bojan Sudjic is very good.
Those bass drums in the final "encore" sound great, the performer hit it hard huh! 1.07 and 1.08.
I had found that many in "albums", but since I couldn't find the version I own of Fritz Mahler, I decided to search the web. And the YT video of the Serbian Director Bojan Sudjic is very good.
Those bass drums in the final "encore" sound great, the performer hit it hard huh! 1.07 and 1.08.
Be sure to listen to the version from Adel Shalaby / Munich percussion ensemble @YT. IMHO the very best
1960. The conductor Fritz Mahler ended up in Winston-Salem North Carolina, of all places. Home of Camel cigarettes.
Well, I found your suggestion and I will tell you my opinion.
It's divided into chapters, which makes it a bit choppy - I listened to the first five of them - that's easy to locate parts of the work, but I prefer everything without interruptions. In the musical sense, what happens to all the performers, director included? Is that a requiem or something? Who has died? In Carmina the one who is dead but talks is the turkey, who turns and turns, and resigned to his fate laughs at himself and says "I'm all black and roasting!" Here, I see all tense and serious faces, the work must be interpreted with audacity, energy but it must transmit happiness, it is a song to life, to love!
The Japanese bass drum girl does not have enough energy to cause the necessary "crash". The choir is small and with a predominance of masculine tones always ....
And I could go on, but in short, I prefer the Serbian version of Sudjic, but it's just my opinion, each one with his preferences.
So my LP follows first, directed by Fritz Mahler, too bad it hasn't been found on the web.....
Maybe I'll upload it to YT, I'll have to find some time, and that's what I'm missing... well, if there's good news, remember to let us know and upload the link.
https://es.mahlerfoundation.org/mahler/family-tree/generation-6d/fritz-mahler-1901-1973/
WINSTON SALEM, North Carolina, June 18 - Fritz Mahler, the director, died today in a nursing home. He was 72 years old and had lived at 340 West 72d Street', New York.
I hope he didn't die because he was a big smoker, I had a friend (just the one I mentioned who made me listen to this musical work for the first time) who died very young because he was a pipe tobacco smoker)
In 1960 I was 10 years old and I still didn't buy vinyl, I meant when I bought the same one. I think it was closer to 1970, thanks anyway.
When I was in my teens and early twenties my friends and I were all Carmina Burana mad. We listened to as many different interpretation as we could find.
Not sure that I remember this Fritz Mahler version, but probably heard it.
Not sure that I remember this Fritz Mahler version, but probably heard it.
So you confirm that this LP was a fairly universal phenomenon , especially among the youth !
You can still listen to it, just take out your card ! 😊
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/5907669-Carl-Orff-Fritz-Mahler-Carmina-Burana
You can still listen to it, just take out your card ! 😊
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/5907669-Carl-Orff-Fritz-Mahler-Carmina-Burana
I had an old "Seraphim" LP with Leopold Stokowski conducting (I think) the Houston Symphony Orchestra, a very enjoyable performance spoilt by a sub-standard pressing. I preferred his performance to some others by better known conductors; it may be available on CD, I haven't checked as I have transferred it to disc and cleaned it up a bit.
Geoff
Geoff
Geoff, very thanks !
As I said in my post 1 , I did not like the version of Stokowsky that appears on Tidal.
I'm currently listening to Seiji Osawa's version. I like it. He is on Tidal. They all look alike, obviously, but what I see is that he has "strength", which Stokowsky and others lacked, in my opinion. Just my opinion, I'm not a connoisseur of classical music, I just like it.
As I said in my post 1 , I did not like the version of Stokowsky that appears on Tidal.
I'm currently listening to Seiji Osawa's version. I like it. He is on Tidal. They all look alike, obviously, but what I see is that he has "strength", which Stokowsky and others lacked, in my opinion. Just my opinion, I'm not a connoisseur of classical music, I just like it.
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As Pano wrote, and I can confirm that Carmina Burana was very popular amongst the youth in the 70's. So was Ravel's Bolero, Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition (partly due to ELP's interpretation) and some others.
Did you know that Carmina Burana is part of a trilogy? The other two parts are less known. I have this 3 LP set from 1973 with full text.
Did you know that Carmina Burana is part of a trilogy? The other two parts are less known. I have this 3 LP set from 1973 with full text.
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I know that version, but i prefer the version recoreded by Anima Eterna & Collegium Vocale Gent directed by Jos van Immerseel, recored in 2014 in the concerthall in Brugge. It sounds way more balanced in the orchestration and choir, and the recording is of much better quality. The infamous acoustics of that hall (one of the better in Europe) also helps a lot probally.
I didn't know, good date, thanks.
Add to "Bolero" by Maurice Ravel and "Pictures at an Exhibition" by Modest Mussorgsky, performed by Emerson Lake and Palmer, Deep Purple with the London Philharmonic, in this case giving life to a work composed by Jon Lord .
I have the vinyl, and I haven't listened to it for a long time, today, Saturday night here, it will turn again! There are very good parts!
(*) Yes, DP, the same ones from the famous "smoke over the water" that was based on a real event, a tragic fire in a hotel located on the shores of a lake, and that they witnessed, if I remember correctly....
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I'm not sure if you mean my preferred version at the beginning of the thread or lcsaszar's.
I'll listen a bit, and I'll tell you. Probably being a recording from 2014, and in that scenario, but there is no noticeable difference in the SQ with the other versions.
This raises the old problem of what we can expect from the sound of YT, unfortunately we cannot know at what bit rate the material was uploaded, with what equipment Pepe Rodriguez uploaded it, etc.
I would have to buy the vinyl, listen to it completely and with time, so I don't dare to give any verdict... 😉