I've had the opportunity to pick up a few pairs of vintage speakers recently, Dynaco A-35s and Akai SW-180s. I'm enjoying them on my SS amps that I own now but I'm interested in trying speakers with some tubes. I currently have a DarkVoice for my headphones which I love but I'd like to try a stereo tube speaker amp. I've seen a number of kits out there for DIY tube amps but I'm not sure which one would be best for my application and price point. I'd like to use this with my record player and with my phone via either Bluetooth or RCA and I'd like the best kit I can buy for $300 or less shipped to the US. I don't need a headphone output for this amp and I don't need any crazy high wattages to drive these speakers.
The output transformers really determine the sonics of a tube amp and unless those are really efficient speakers, a low power , hence low cost if you want decent sonics may not cut it. Used console amps may be still affordable, if you rebuild it yourself and can find one.
Diy PCB's from George at tubelab.com can be an affordable start for a nice amp , but you would have to go else where to say a glassware for an affordable phono preamp. George has a nice forum on this site.
Diy PCB's from George at tubelab.com can be an affordable start for a nice amp , but you would have to go else where to say a glassware for an affordable phono preamp. George has a nice forum on this site.
I'd like the best kit I can buy for $300 or less shipped to the US.
That will barely cover the cost of the transformers. Keep saving.🙂
jeff
The Dynacos will work best with a good solid state amplifier.
Yeah I thought that might be the case. They really blew me away when I listened to them for the first time.
How about the Akai?
you probably won't find a kit at that price but you can certainly scratch build a tube amp for $300, especially if you're resourceful.
Push-pull EL84 kits (~13 WPC) are available on eBay from China for ~$300 to $350 US. Xraytonyb on YouTube did a build series on one of these a while back.
Vacuum Tube Push-Pull Amplifier Kit - Part 1 - YouTube
Vacuum Tube Push-Pull Amplifier Kit - Part 1 - YouTube
I've found the following kits for pretty reasonable prices:
HiFi Class AB Tube Power Amplifier DIY Kit Push-pull Stereo Audio Amp 12W+12W | eBay
DIY KIT 6n9p + EL34-B class A vacuum tube finished amplifier tube AMP 13W+13W | eBay
13W*2 6P14/EL84 Push-pull HiFi Class AB Stereo Tube Integrated Amplifier DIY KIT | eBay
Douk Audio 6V6 Single-ended Class A Amp ValveTube Stereo Amplifier DIY KIT 7596787762598 | eBay
HIFI 6P3P 6N8P tube Single-Ended Class A Home Audio Tube Amplifier DIY Kits | eBay
Any of these get higher recommendations than others?
HiFi Class AB Tube Power Amplifier DIY Kit Push-pull Stereo Audio Amp 12W+12W | eBay
DIY KIT 6n9p + EL34-B class A vacuum tube finished amplifier tube AMP 13W+13W | eBay
13W*2 6P14/EL84 Push-pull HiFi Class AB Stereo Tube Integrated Amplifier DIY KIT | eBay
Douk Audio 6V6 Single-ended Class A Amp ValveTube Stereo Amplifier DIY KIT 7596787762598 | eBay
HIFI 6P3P 6N8P tube Single-Ended Class A Home Audio Tube Amplifier DIY Kits | eBay
Any of these get higher recommendations than others?
For me these kit would be competing against the off the shelf offerings like the Nobsound 6P1, APPJ PA1501A, TubeCube 7, and FX Audio P1. Just to give some additional context. I know whatever I end up getting won't be the best and will for sure not be my last tube amp, this is just to get my feet wet and get these speakers up and running. If this wouldn't be ideal I can buy or build a solid state amp.
The third one on your list (13W*2) is very similar to the one Xraytonyb built. Watch all his videos on the build, there's 5 or 6. See if it would suit you. Tony does a few mods and the amp does fairly well in bench testing. The single-ended amps are OK if you have fairly high efficiency speakers but for most "normal" speakers I think a push-pull amp would be better. EL84 tubes are dead cheap too. I've bought NOS Russian ones
for as little as 10 bucks US each. The gain/phase splitter tubes in the 13W*2 amp can be swapped out for ECC85/6AQ8 tubes or with a little work changed over to 12AT7 tubes.
I have a push-pull EL84 amp in my workshop powering a pair of Triangle BR02 speakers and it's plenty loud enough.
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for as little as 10 bucks US each. The gain/phase splitter tubes in the 13W*2 amp can be swapped out for ECC85/6AQ8 tubes or with a little work changed over to 12AT7 tubes.
I have a push-pull EL84 amp in my workshop powering a pair of Triangle BR02 speakers and it's plenty loud enough.
S.
I'll be blunt.... they are all a bunch of cheap junk. Save your money and buy something decent.
i got a 16KG6 PP board in the gerbers thread, 5USD for 10 boards before shopping at my favorite Chinese boardhouse. Works well, has been playing in my friends living room no issue whatsoever.
Cheers
Cheers
Yes, they won't be great but if you were to say build one of Tubelab's EL84 SPP amps (which is what's running in my shop) you're into 600 bucks US minimum. Plus some metal bashing to drill up a chassis would be needed too.
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I'll be blunt.... they are all a bunch of cheap junk. Save your money and buy something decent.
Or, at the very least don't think the way they sound is the "tube sound". I think it gets a bad reputation based on some of the equipment with tubes that people hear.
Why not build a tube amp?... If this wouldn't be ideal I can buy or build a solid state amp.
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The speakers need at least 20 WPC and more is really appropriate. PP EL34 and 7591 designs will do the job. Too bad Scott LK72B kits are no longer being offerred.
That $300 figure is completely unrealistic. Suitable Edcor O/P transformers for the 7591 cost $85 each.
Now for the practical solution. More than 1 good sounding system has employed SS power amplification and tubed preamplification. $300 will get a nice DIY control center with a phono section and buffered volume control done. The provided tweaked RCA phono setup will drive modern recording devices, should that tickle your fancy.
That $300 figure is completely unrealistic. Suitable Edcor O/P transformers for the 7591 cost $85 each.
Now for the practical solution. More than 1 good sounding system has employed SS power amplification and tubed preamplification. $300 will get a nice DIY control center with a phono section and buffered volume control done. The provided tweaked RCA phono setup will drive modern recording devices, should that tickle your fancy.
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I'm developing an amp called the "little miracle" that might fit the bill... output is about 10W of PP triode.
Uses circuit boards, and off the shelf Triad transformers.
300$ should be doable if you drill the chassis yourself.
Uses circuit boards, and off the shelf Triad transformers.
300$ should be doable if you drill the chassis yourself.
output is about 10W
That's a show stopper.

All too often, goals and finances don't intersect. 🙁
The little miracle should put out closer to 25W if used as a pentode amp and the provisions are on board to do so complete with zener shunt for the screens. I haven't build the prototype up yet. Everything is here except for 9 pin ceramic sockets. PSA the plastic ones will smell like fertilizer for at least 2 weeks so if you don't like VOCs spring for the ceramic ones...
The MA-1 modular amp would be much better, but it'll cost more like 500$ at least. Works with over 40 different output tubes (so far) though.
The MA-1 modular amp would be much better, but it'll cost more like 500$ at least. Works with over 40 different output tubes (so far) though.
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