Hello everyone,
I'm new to the forum and currently in desperate search of insight on this project that was worked on an Infocus X1 Projector:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=84437
I'm trying to do the same thing to a IN72 Projector. I've already taken apart the projector and found that all components and component layouts are very much just like the X1 projector though with minor differences (plastics, and a few additional pins on a certain connector that run from the ballast board.) I'm sure the same steps can be applied from that forum project onto this one. I have been reading the X1's service guide (since I can't find any service guides for the IN72.) and found alot of useful information on how they work and voltages. Anyway I've searched everywhere for insight and figured this was my last resort. anyone who can or has anything that can help will be very much appreciated 🙂
IN72 Take apart pics will be up shortly...
X1 service guide can be found here:
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/index.p...=X1serviceguide
I'm new to the forum and currently in desperate search of insight on this project that was worked on an Infocus X1 Projector:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=84437
I'm trying to do the same thing to a IN72 Projector. I've already taken apart the projector and found that all components and component layouts are very much just like the X1 projector though with minor differences (plastics, and a few additional pins on a certain connector that run from the ballast board.) I'm sure the same steps can be applied from that forum project onto this one. I have been reading the X1's service guide (since I can't find any service guides for the IN72.) and found alot of useful information on how they work and voltages. Anyway I've searched everywhere for insight and figured this was my last resort. anyone who can or has anything that can help will be very much appreciated 🙂
IN72 Take apart pics will be up shortly...
X1 service guide can be found here:
http://www.eserviceinfo.com/index.p...=X1serviceguide
hey,
I have been toying with the idea of purchasing a cheap projector with a burnt bulb from ebay and doing the same thing...
I found a few sites where others have done similar projects. Looks like the Europeans have been doing this for some time! Unfortunately these sites are in other languages. I have used freetraslation.com to translate their post. it takes time, but well worth the effort. Here is my list as of yet, PLEASE share yours if you have any
http://www.diy-community.de/forumdisplay.php?f=60
http://www.allinbox.com/modding.htm
http://www.dity.nl/forum/lampen/442-aansluiten-hqi-lampen.html
http://recklessphilosophers.com/200...lp-pj-retrofit-for-7-bulb-instead-of-300.aspx
Please share your success! It would be great if we can get something like this going on an English language forum.
Good luck!
I have been toying with the idea of purchasing a cheap projector with a burnt bulb from ebay and doing the same thing...
I found a few sites where others have done similar projects. Looks like the Europeans have been doing this for some time! Unfortunately these sites are in other languages. I have used freetraslation.com to translate their post. it takes time, but well worth the effort. Here is my list as of yet, PLEASE share yours if you have any
http://www.diy-community.de/forumdisplay.php?f=60
http://www.allinbox.com/modding.htm
http://www.dity.nl/forum/lampen/442-aansluiten-hqi-lampen.html
http://recklessphilosophers.com/200...lp-pj-retrofit-for-7-bulb-instead-of-300.aspx
Please share your success! It would be great if we can get something like this going on an English language forum.
Good luck!
UPDATE!!
I managed to perform the task. It's pretty much exactly the same thing that was done on the X1. So with a bit of logic, the X1 service guide, And a tester I was able to pull it off...
I will break it down into steps starting with take apart.
CAUTION!!:
I did this because my projector was out of warranty In no way or form am I saying to do this If your projector is covered under warranty and you still have lamp life on your bulb. i'm not responsible if you damage your projector so do this at your own risk!
TAKE APART:
1. Remove Base Mount screws. (That is if you still have the projector on its original base swivel mount)
2. Remove all Bottom side cover Silver screws.
3. Open Lamp housing cover and remove the 3 Silver screws located on the front.
4. Flip projector top upright. Slide Silver Side Panels back ( the ones that say infocus on the side) and pull off.
5. Remove side screws from side bracket and pull side Brackets off
6. Flip open top case (careful with the control wire connected to the control panel)
PROJECT:
(USE X1 PROJECT PICS FOR REFERENCE ON LOCATION OF ECA CONTROLLER WIRE AND THERMAL SWITCH)
ok now the fun part... If you have been reading up on the X1 Project by "ChrisRR" link I left on the first post and compare pictures you will see how similar everything is....
Now step one is to fool the thermal switch (found on top of lamp housing) into thinking there is heat coming from the bulb. That is done by applying a 2 ohm resistor right on top of it.
Step two is pulling the control wire coming from the ballast board to the controller ECA board from 3.3v to 1.5v making the ECA controller think the Lamp is ignited.
Steps.
1. Soldier 2ohm resistor onto thermal switch.
2. Locate pin 14 on ECA Controller Cable.
3. Attach a wire from pin 14 onto GROUND. (I used ground coming from a mounting screw found in one of the corners of the ballast board.)
And that is that!!
the great part of all this is that this setup can be done on all IN7x family of projectors
Special thanks goes to ChrisRR for discovering this in his lab and OzOnE_2k3 for the X1 guide.
(Sorry for not posting any pics due to broken camera) 🙁
CONCLUSION:
As for lighting solutions.... well it seems theres alot of light loss when applying an alternative lighting solution from what I've learned from all of this. There's the color wheel then the DMD array then the throw back mirror and finally the lens. Keep in mind not to go based on what the projector says on lighting output i.e.: My projector (IN72) states upto 900 ANSI Lumens so I originally went based on that thought without knowing the bulb is actually alot higher.
Not much success was accomplished using a 1000 Lumen 6000k True White LED bought on ebay nor using a 3500 Lumen Car HID 6500k Hyper White Bulb with original bulb reflector....
So I just decided to rebuild the bulb and went on this site http://diypro.xiaofish.us/
and purchased one. But I have yet to hear from them and I'm still waiting for the bulb 🙁
If anyone has any lighting solutions that have worked on these DLP Projectors please let me know...
I managed to perform the task. It's pretty much exactly the same thing that was done on the X1. So with a bit of logic, the X1 service guide, And a tester I was able to pull it off...
I will break it down into steps starting with take apart.
CAUTION!!: I did this because my projector was out of warranty In no way or form am I saying to do this If your projector is covered under warranty and you still have lamp life on your bulb. i'm not responsible if you damage your projector so do this at your own risk!
TAKE APART:
1. Remove Base Mount screws. (That is if you still have the projector on its original base swivel mount)
2. Remove all Bottom side cover Silver screws.
3. Open Lamp housing cover and remove the 3 Silver screws located on the front.
4. Flip projector top upright. Slide Silver Side Panels back ( the ones that say infocus on the side) and pull off.
5. Remove side screws from side bracket and pull side Brackets off
6. Flip open top case (careful with the control wire connected to the control panel)
PROJECT:
(USE X1 PROJECT PICS FOR REFERENCE ON LOCATION OF ECA CONTROLLER WIRE AND THERMAL SWITCH)
ok now the fun part... If you have been reading up on the X1 Project by "ChrisRR" link I left on the first post and compare pictures you will see how similar everything is....
Now step one is to fool the thermal switch (found on top of lamp housing) into thinking there is heat coming from the bulb. That is done by applying a 2 ohm resistor right on top of it.
Step two is pulling the control wire coming from the ballast board to the controller ECA board from 3.3v to 1.5v making the ECA controller think the Lamp is ignited.
Steps.
1. Soldier 2ohm resistor onto thermal switch.
2. Locate pin 14 on ECA Controller Cable.
3. Attach a wire from pin 14 onto GROUND. (I used ground coming from a mounting screw found in one of the corners of the ballast board.)
And that is that!!
the great part of all this is that this setup can be done on all IN7x family of projectors
Special thanks goes to ChrisRR for discovering this in his lab and OzOnE_2k3 for the X1 guide.
(Sorry for not posting any pics due to broken camera) 🙁
CONCLUSION:
As for lighting solutions.... well it seems theres alot of light loss when applying an alternative lighting solution from what I've learned from all of this. There's the color wheel then the DMD array then the throw back mirror and finally the lens. Keep in mind not to go based on what the projector says on lighting output i.e.: My projector (IN72) states upto 900 ANSI Lumens so I originally went based on that thought without knowing the bulb is actually alot higher.
Not much success was accomplished using a 1000 Lumen 6000k True White LED bought on ebay nor using a 3500 Lumen Car HID 6500k Hyper White Bulb with original bulb reflector....
So I just decided to rebuild the bulb and went on this site http://diypro.xiaofish.us/
and purchased one. But I have yet to hear from them and I'm still waiting for the bulb 🙁
If anyone has any lighting solutions that have worked on these DLP Projectors please let me know...
thanks for the update! Looks like you have been busy!
was the auto light a "xenon"? It is a bummer to hear that it was not a acceptable replacement ! 🙁
I read somewhere that the company you ordered your bulb from is having difficulty with the Chinese suppler. It has to do with the up coming Olympics...
was the auto light a "xenon"? It is a bummer to hear that it was not a acceptable replacement ! 🙁
I read somewhere that the company you ordered your bulb from is having difficulty with the Chinese suppler. It has to do with the up coming Olympics...
yes it was xenon!! 🙁
and also I'm currently trying to work with the suppler directly via forum so lets see what happens...I really hope to get my projector working again...
and also I'm currently trying to work with the suppler directly via forum so lets see what happens...I really hope to get my projector working again...
Hynotech83 I just got this projector and I was going to use the xenon but you say its to dim what was the size you are trying to make it. What are you using now for the lamp source.
Trust me a xenon head lamp for a car will not produce the correct amount of light it needs to shine at all....
Believe me when i say I had to shut all the lights off just to see a faint glow on my t-shirt !!....
Remember native xenon is 3 to 5000 lumens but the actual native bulb of that projector is about 24000 lumens..... Talk about light loss huh?
As for my alternative I went ahead and bought a bare bulb from YWH!! at the link I left a few posts up top... and rebuilt it but.... either the bulb is not working or my PJ is'nt producing enough juice... idk at this point... all I know I spent alot of time and money....and I would of been better off just buying the dam thing retail.
I hope this brings food for thought...and for your wallet....
Good Luck
Believe me when i say I had to shut all the lights off just to see a faint glow on my t-shirt !!....
Remember native xenon is 3 to 5000 lumens but the actual native bulb of that projector is about 24000 lumens..... Talk about light loss huh?
As for my alternative I went ahead and bought a bare bulb from YWH!! at the link I left a few posts up top... and rebuilt it but.... either the bulb is not working or my PJ is'nt producing enough juice... idk at this point... all I know I spent alot of time and money....and I would of been better off just buying the dam thing retail.
I hope this brings food for thought...and for your wallet....
Good Luck
I know how you feel. Where did you get your xenon HID bulbs from and are you selling them now?? 😀 Look on the BRIGHT side you have learned a lot and you are helping others I hope you get something worked out with YWH
Hynotech, have you had anymore luck with replacing the bulb from ywh? I am thinking about ordering one, but nervous at the same time. Also is there anything against using multiple briight light LEDs rather than a single one? Been bouncing this around in my head for awhile, and I am very intimidated to say the least.
Hi Folks,
Sounds like good projects on relamping IN72s. I am having great results on the X1 using the jys/dc from YWH. Lamps start very quickly which is good. I have relamped LP340/LP350 which also work great with jys/dc and LP500 & lp530 using both jys/dc and more expensive BVM?. Only prob with them is power supplies are not very strong and sometimes takes 2-3 tries to light lamps on REV 1 boards unless you have original power boards they start right away.
Next project for me is to relamp X2,X3 Infocus. So far lamps light fast but not bright enough.
BTW, YWH will exchange lamps for you if yours is not working. He may have a brighter lamp to try also.
Good Luck,
Jim
Sounds like good projects on relamping IN72s. I am having great results on the X1 using the jys/dc from YWH. Lamps start very quickly which is good. I have relamped LP340/LP350 which also work great with jys/dc and LP500 & lp530 using both jys/dc and more expensive BVM?. Only prob with them is power supplies are not very strong and sometimes takes 2-3 tries to light lamps on REV 1 boards unless you have original power boards they start right away.
Next project for me is to relamp X2,X3 Infocus. So far lamps light fast but not bright enough.
BTW, YWH will exchange lamps for you if yours is not working. He may have a brighter lamp to try also.
Good Luck,
Jim
Well well it's the infamous ChildSid!! welcome to the thread!! 🙂
As for the xenon bulbs that Sdubb123 was asking about... they were a loan from my father who owns a car/audio shop. And since I dont own a car for now I returned it to him. But If youre interested in pursuing the project you can find ballast boards and bulbs for very cheap on ebay
And Haliker: Well after reading what ChildSid had to say.... it could be my first speculation about the board not having enough juice to power the bulb in any case YWH has offered to look into it for me (which is very cool) so I'm sending him the bulb with reflector this week.. As for trying multiple High Lumen Leds?.....I dont know buddy.... I'll tell you this Edipower released a 3000 Lumen model a couple of months back.... I saw someone selling it on ebay for US$175 almost tempted to try but the thing with those LEDS is the heat issue, Those things heat up very fast. I had to use a Chipset heatsink from an old PC MB and thermal paste for my 1000 lumen model and let me tell ya it does work but its just not bright enough.
If you place the LED right on top of the hole where the colorwheel is (I took the heat filter glass off the original lamp casing and heat glued the corners onto the LED (quite risky but at this point I was a mad scientist.).)
you will get an image but a really dim one and thats the 'best result' location for those things. The only problem for me was I had to hold the thing onto the hole since I couldnt think of a quick idea to hold it in place and it was also just to test see if that would inprove on light loss from original mounting method, which it did 🙂 but not enough light in comparison to how it used to light up with conventional bulb. 🙁
Personally I think you would have to be an optics scientist or have optics experience to re-engineer this PJ to work with the Leds but I do belive its possible. From a techinical stand point getting a brighter Led is all we can do but at what cost? and will it perform they way we want it to? keeping in mind this PJ was engineered to work with an extreme high output bulb...
Just some random info for you guys my setup is a living room 17x23 sq. ft. wall to wall the PJ's throwing distance was 15ft at about 108" on a glass beaded matte white High Gain (2:1 Contrast ratio) Screen...
And this wraps up my weekly essay on PJ Modding.... 😀 join me next week as I futher discuss the intricacies in Xbox 360 dvd drive modding and turning your old laptop into a router!!!
As for the xenon bulbs that Sdubb123 was asking about... they were a loan from my father who owns a car/audio shop. And since I dont own a car for now I returned it to him. But If youre interested in pursuing the project you can find ballast boards and bulbs for very cheap on ebay
And Haliker: Well after reading what ChildSid had to say.... it could be my first speculation about the board not having enough juice to power the bulb in any case YWH has offered to look into it for me (which is very cool) so I'm sending him the bulb with reflector this week.. As for trying multiple High Lumen Leds?.....I dont know buddy.... I'll tell you this Edipower released a 3000 Lumen model a couple of months back.... I saw someone selling it on ebay for US$175 almost tempted to try but the thing with those LEDS is the heat issue, Those things heat up very fast. I had to use a Chipset heatsink from an old PC MB and thermal paste for my 1000 lumen model and let me tell ya it does work but its just not bright enough.
If you place the LED right on top of the hole where the colorwheel is (I took the heat filter glass off the original lamp casing and heat glued the corners onto the LED (quite risky but at this point I was a mad scientist
.).) you will get an image but a really dim one and thats the 'best result' location for those things. The only problem for me was I had to hold the thing onto the hole since I couldnt think of a quick idea to hold it in place and it was also just to test see if that would inprove on light loss from original mounting method, which it did 🙂 but not enough light in comparison to how it used to light up with conventional bulb. 🙁
Personally I think you would have to be an optics scientist or have optics experience to re-engineer this PJ to work with the Leds but I do belive its possible. From a techinical stand point getting a brighter Led is all we can do but at what cost? and will it perform they way we want it to? keeping in mind this PJ was engineered to work with an extreme high output bulb...
Just some random info for you guys my setup is a living room 17x23 sq. ft. wall to wall the PJ's throwing distance was 15ft at about 108" on a glass beaded matte white High Gain (2:1 Contrast ratio) Screen...
And this wraps up my weekly essay on PJ Modding.... 😀 join me next week as I futher discuss the intricacies in Xbox 360 dvd drive modding and turning your old laptop into a router!!!
IN72
Please help. Does anyone have instructions and/or guide pics in order to take apart a Infocus IN72??
Please help. Does anyone have instructions and/or guide pics in order to take apart a Infocus IN72??
IN72
I need to get rid of several dust blobs on my PJ. I also want to clean it out entirely of accumilated dust. Anyone know how to take apart an Infocus IN72? I could use some suggestions for cleaning the projector of dust. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I need to get rid of several dust blobs on my PJ. I also want to clean it out entirely of accumilated dust. Anyone know how to take apart an Infocus IN72? I could use some suggestions for cleaning the projector of dust. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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