Hi
I am looking for a crimper for the KK pins for Molex connector housing that is 0.1" pitch. The links are the pins, housing and header that I am buying. It's for 22 to 30 gauge wire. The Molex crimper is very expensive, I am looking for a cheaper one.
Molex Connector Part Number - 08-50-0113
Molex Connector Part Number - 22-01-2037
Molex Connector Part Number - 22-23-2031
Also, I am looking for the coax cable to use in this. We used a white cover small coax before. But I have absolutely no idea what it is. Please give me suggestion on a coax used for these connectors.
Thanks
I am looking for a crimper for the KK pins for Molex connector housing that is 0.1" pitch. The links are the pins, housing and header that I am buying. It's for 22 to 30 gauge wire. The Molex crimper is very expensive, I am looking for a cheaper one.
Molex Connector Part Number - 08-50-0113
Molex Connector Part Number - 22-01-2037
Molex Connector Part Number - 22-23-2031
Also, I am looking for the coax cable to use in this. We used a white cover small coax before. But I have absolutely no idea what it is. Please give me suggestion on a coax used for these connectors.
Thanks
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Just google Waldom crimp tool
http://www.amazon.com/Waldom-Electronics-W-HT-1921-CRIMPING-CONTACTS/dp/B001DPS3W8
http://www.amazon.com/Waldom-Electronics-W-HT-1921-CRIMPING-CONTACTS/dp/B001DPS3W8
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
You sure it will work for those pins? I have zero knowledge on crimping pins, never really done it before😱😛. At work I take for granted it's done!!!😀
Thanks
OP Please post a link to a close up pic of the molex crimp tool.
I found one, it is the hand held one.
Probably better to use the proper tool
designed for Molex.
Here is the cheap one at 67.USD.
http://www.newark.com/molex/63811-1...x-0-062in/dp/85C2464?MER=PSPSO_S_C_Molex_None
Their expensive one starts at 237 USD and
goes up from there.
I found one, it is the hand held one.
Probably better to use the proper tool
designed for Molex.
Here is the cheap one at 67.USD.
http://www.newark.com/molex/63811-1...x-0-062in/dp/85C2464?MER=PSPSO_S_C_Molex_None
Their expensive one starts at 237 USD and
goes up from there.
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If you're going to use actual Molex brand parts, definitely get the real Molex brand crimper. The cheaper Molex type pictured above is passable,
but if you will be doing lots of terminations, the pro Molex ratcheting tool with specific dies is the way to go. Way expensive, though.
That waldom and 67usd tool are rubbish. You need a ratcheting crimper. I bought a great one from Farnell for less than 20 pounds, newark should stock it over there. Will find out the part number for you.
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Thanks guys, I am not going to do a lot of crimping. I am only building a few amps. I cannot imagine crimping over 200 times all together!!!
The reason I want to use Molex connector is more for the looks inside. So as long as the crimper works, it works for me. Paying $68 for the Molex brand crimper is very steep for crimping 200 times!!!
Question is whether any crimper that crimp for 22 to 30 gauge works for Molex KK? Or does it has special features that need a special crimper. I have no idea as you can see!!!
The reason I want to use Molex connector is more for the looks inside. So as long as the crimper works, it works for me. Paying $68 for the Molex brand crimper is very steep for crimping 200 times!!!
Question is whether any crimper that crimp for 22 to 30 gauge works for Molex KK? Or does it has special features that need a special crimper. I have no idea as you can see!!!
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Better question. Any connectors that I can use that use cheaper crimper than the Molex I chose? I have no idea. People always use Molex at work, so I just follow.
I do need to have connectors that is 0.1" pitch as I layout pcb already. I only need 2 positions and 3 positions.
I do need to have connectors that is 0.1" pitch as I layout pcb already. I only need 2 positions and 3 positions.
Ray, I know it's not great, but it is what it is.
Richie, Yes, I know. But he wasn't going to do a lot
of crimping.
You can also buy some ready made crimped leads.
For me, I've got an older Thomas & Betts, but then
I've done plenty of crimping.
Of course, Thomas & Betts isn't much compared to
the real DMC crimpers.
Alan, can you just pay for the connectors you need
through petty cash at work?
They should have some type system set up I think.
When I was out at Lockheed Martin they had special
provisions for buying some parts at their store.
Richie, Yes, I know. But he wasn't going to do a lot
of crimping.
You can also buy some ready made crimped leads.
For me, I've got an older Thomas & Betts, but then
I've done plenty of crimping.
Of course, Thomas & Betts isn't much compared to
the real DMC crimpers.
Alan, can you just pay for the connectors you need
through petty cash at work?
They should have some type system set up I think.
When I was out at Lockheed Martin they had special
provisions for buying some parts at their store.
$67 still very expensive for the very few that I need to do. Hate to spend this kind of money!!!
I would much rather buy the ready made coax with Molex on both ends. I can cut into two and solder from the RCA at the back pannel and connect to the PCB with Molex connector. I looked at Digikey and I can't find ready made cable. If you know where to buy, let me know.
I am retired, I am doing some temporary contracting, so I don't have a company to go to. I might be able to borrow a crimper, but I can't count on it as I am going to make a few amps.
Buying the parts for the connectors are cheap, I don't even want to go through the company, it's the crimper.
Do I need a special crimper for Molex or any crimper that crimp 22 to 30 gauge will work?
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How about this one?
HT-225D Full Cycle Ratchet Crimping Tool with interchangeable die set HT-225D - Crimpers - Amazon.com
Guys, I really need a light duty one, I am even willing to touch up with solder to make it more secure if I have to. Remember, I am only going to make less than 200 crimping in the whole life time.
If I can buy the cable, forget the crimper!!!
HT-225D Full Cycle Ratchet Crimping Tool with interchangeable die set HT-225D - Crimpers - Amazon.com
Guys, I really need a light duty one, I am even willing to touch up with solder to make it more secure if I have to. Remember, I am only going to make less than 200 crimping in the whole life time.
If I can buy the cable, forget the crimper!!!
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That will probably work too. The KK series pins are not all that different from the 06 and 09 pins for the rectangular connectors.
it is like anything else, you can buy the very expensive super crimpers, and that makes sense in a production situation. Just like you can buy the $1000 solder iron for production work where they would never use the $90 iron. You can get the $10,00 LeCroy scope for your lab, or you can build and service amps in your home shop with a $400 scope successfully.
I have used that exact yellow handle Waldom/Molex crimper in my professional work for 40 years plus. It has worked just fine for me, yes the same original one I bought then, and I have made a ton of Molex terminated cables. I had the AM-P rep come by our shop one day to place an order for a lot of their connectors. They are basically a competitor of Molex. Their line is roughly equivalent. I showed him the cheap tool, we crimped a few of his pins, and he said "this ought to work on our pins as well." And it does.
Heck, if you don't like the crimper, get a press and use IDCs instead, Molex makes the KK series in IDC as well as crimp.
it is like anything else, you can buy the very expensive super crimpers, and that makes sense in a production situation. Just like you can buy the $1000 solder iron for production work where they would never use the $90 iron. You can get the $10,00 LeCroy scope for your lab, or you can build and service amps in your home shop with a $400 scope successfully.
I have used that exact yellow handle Waldom/Molex crimper in my professional work for 40 years plus. It has worked just fine for me, yes the same original one I bought then, and I have made a ton of Molex terminated cables. I had the AM-P rep come by our shop one day to place an order for a lot of their connectors. They are basically a competitor of Molex. Their line is roughly equivalent. I showed him the cheap tool, we crimped a few of his pins, and he said "this ought to work on our pins as well." And it does.
Heck, if you don't like the crimper, get a press and use IDCs instead, Molex makes the KK series in IDC as well as crimp.
I will say this, if you haven't crimped before. BUY A BUNCH of extra crimps because the learning curve is a bit steep. Once you master it, ratcheting crimps work pretty well but you will ruin a bunch at first. So get your practice in on wire that doesn't matter.
Hi Enzo,
I just like to confirm you mean this one:
HT-225D Full Cycle Ratchet Crimping Tool with interchangeable die set HT-225D - Crimpers - Amazon.com
This is free shipping and fast. As long as it works, I'm good. No fancy stuff needed.
Yes, I am going to buy 250 pins. I crimped a few before, it's not that hard, I just don't know what tool for what, they handed my the tool and the pins and I crimp!!!
The tool referenced in post #4 works ok if you choose the proper die size for a given wire and crimp contact. This takes a bit of practice, so extra crimp contacts are a good idea. I use the referenced tool all the time to crimp contacts for Molex 0.156" connectors, and I'll be using it yet again to crimp up some 0.1" contacts for a computer cable.
The ratchet-type crimpers are obviously better, but they are single-purpose tools, so you need to buy one for each contact type you plan to use. This is an extremely expensive proposition unless youu happen to be well informed as to the exact tool needed and luck out on the surplus market - otherwise, its ~ 300 bucks per contact type.
The ratchet-type crimpers are obviously better, but they are single-purpose tools, so you need to buy one for each contact type you plan to use. This is an extremely expensive proposition unless youu happen to be well informed as to the exact tool needed and luck out on the surplus market - otherwise, its ~ 300 bucks per contact type.
I haven't seen any of the cheaper ratchet connectors that have dies for the usual run of Molex connectors. If they exist, I'd sure like to know. I have one of those cheaper ratchet crimpers with replacable dies that does a good job with insulated ring/fork terminals and straight/rt angle fastons.
Enzo, I can't see it up close, so I'll take your word on it that
it works.
Caution though, what you bought 40 years ago
isn't the same stuff that you get today. It might
be.... I've seen and bought some older known low
priced stuff that I've seen used, ordered it and well
you know how it goes...some pretty sloppy crap branded
by the same folks.
Those little terminals are pretty small and I can see
where yours bend into the center like with the little teats
or lips in the middle.
I'm lucky that there is a surplus tool and die, machine tool
place close by and I'm always looking for low priced good
quality NOS American stuff. It's getting harder and harder to find.
Alan, good luck whatever you go with.
We are all here trying to help you out,
been there, done that.
Enzo, I'm too frugal...I'll use my cheapo $100 Tek scope.
It seems to work okay...I do wish I had an extra 10K to get
a fancy scope, but then I might be a scope a dope.
Now the prices for all the older gear are going up.
It's those damn hoarders...one of my sources has got at least
4 shipping container's full of quality gear, you can walk through each
container and they are stacked up. He'll never sell them all.
But it was quite amazing....at least $1,000,000 per container.
at low prices. And that's just what I saw looking for a part
I needed.
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The pins in question start out with a little metal "flag" or tab on either side of the wire. The crimper die is a U shape on one side to cup the pin, while the other side has two curved surfaces that form a shallow point in the center, sort of like a letter "m", with the center leg shorter.
As you crimp down, the flags are guided by the sides of that m to curl down into the center. In the case of the yellow one, there is a larger and a smaller set of dies, for the larger an smaller size pins.
Ratcheting crimpers work the same way, they just add the ratchet function that makes sure you have fully crimped it. It is possible with the simple hand plier type to only squeeze it half way. So pay attention and don't do it half way.
There are other common hand crimpers made for things like ring/fork terminals or splices. Those mainly either just crush or crush with a dent pushed in. That works for butt splices but not for Molex pins.
As you crimp down, the flags are guided by the sides of that m to curl down into the center. In the case of the yellow one, there is a larger and a smaller set of dies, for the larger an smaller size pins.
Ratcheting crimpers work the same way, they just add the ratchet function that makes sure you have fully crimped it. It is possible with the simple hand plier type to only squeeze it half way. So pay attention and don't do it half way.
There are other common hand crimpers made for things like ring/fork terminals or splices. Those mainly either just crush or crush with a dent pushed in. That works for butt splices but not for Molex pins.
That is actually what I have, and what I referred to earlier. Works perfect on Molex KK.
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