Hello, all. Complete noob here so please bear with me if I'm asking rudimentary questions or if I'm posting this thread in the wrong forum altogether.
I recently acquired an old Panasonic PL 530 turntable. I'd like to hook it up to my current system which includes a JVC RX-D206 receiver and a couple of vintage Kenmore speakers (circa 1970). Here are my challenges in getting this set up working:
1.) Due to the configuration of our living room and speaker/AVR setup, the record player needs to live about 10 feet away. The 2 foot RCA cable coming out of the turntable will need a 10 foot extension cable. This alone I think possible maybe calls for a preamp to boost the signal but I don't really know.
2.) I tested the turntable out on the receiver to make sure it'd definitely putting out a clear phono signal--it is. Although there are a few different available RCA inputs on the receiver, the only input that worked was the RCA input labeled "TV". The volume level output sounded a bit low, TV input is already dedicated for use by the television. Not sure whether or not I need to get a new receiver with a "Phono" RCA input, but if at all possible I'd like to avoid having to buy a new receiver.
Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
I recently acquired an old Panasonic PL 530 turntable. I'd like to hook it up to my current system which includes a JVC RX-D206 receiver and a couple of vintage Kenmore speakers (circa 1970). Here are my challenges in getting this set up working:
1.) Due to the configuration of our living room and speaker/AVR setup, the record player needs to live about 10 feet away. The 2 foot RCA cable coming out of the turntable will need a 10 foot extension cable. This alone I think possible maybe calls for a preamp to boost the signal but I don't really know.
2.) I tested the turntable out on the receiver to make sure it'd definitely putting out a clear phono signal--it is. Although there are a few different available RCA inputs on the receiver, the only input that worked was the RCA input labeled "TV". The volume level output sounded a bit low, TV input is already dedicated for use by the television. Not sure whether or not I need to get a new receiver with a "Phono" RCA input, but if at all possible I'd like to avoid having to buy a new receiver.
Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
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1) Use a good quality RCA cable and you'll be alright.
2) You need either a 'phono' input or a separate RIAA pre-amp.
2) You need either a 'phono' input or a separate RIAA pre-amp.
Welcome to diyAudio 🙂 and I love the user name... fascinating little things.
Right then... from what I can see your turntable will use either a magnetic cartridge (the most common type) and these have a low output level or it will use a moving coil cartridge which has an even lower output.
This means that the amplifier or receiver needs to have a dedicated phono input (which is very high gain and also has a special frequency response curve needed for records). I assume your receiver hasn't got this.
Your best option is probably a small stand alone phono stage amplifier and the output of this this would then connect to any spare line level input on the receiver, even via your 10ft lead if needed.
Right then... from what I can see your turntable will use either a magnetic cartridge (the most common type) and these have a low output level or it will use a moving coil cartridge which has an even lower output.
This means that the amplifier or receiver needs to have a dedicated phono input (which is very high gain and also has a special frequency response curve needed for records). I assume your receiver hasn't got this.
Your best option is probably a small stand alone phono stage amplifier and the output of this this would then connect to any spare line level input on the receiver, even via your 10ft lead if needed.
🙂 those are the ones.
Those more knowledgeable on vinyl matters than I will have a better idea what to recommend.
It would help if you know what cartridge type is fitted, Moving Coil (MC) or Moving Magnet (MM).
Something else to consider is whether you want it self contained and mains powered or whether a separate little mains adapter is more suitable. There are zillions of these things advertised in all the usual places, new and not so new.
Those more knowledgeable on vinyl matters than I will have a better idea what to recommend.
It would help if you know what cartridge type is fitted, Moving Coil (MC) or Moving Magnet (MM).
Something else to consider is whether you want it self contained and mains powered or whether a separate little mains adapter is more suitable. There are zillions of these things advertised in all the usual places, new and not so new.
The PL-530 was supplied without cartridge and could accommodate either an MM or an MC type, so I agree it is worth checking your cartridge out before purchasing a phono pre-amp.
Most inexpensive phono pre-amps are MM only, but there are those catering for both MM and MC - though these can be more expensive.
Here's the turntable manual, if you don't have one: Attaching The Cartridge - Pioneer PL-530 Operating Instructions Manual [Page 3] | ManualsLib
Most inexpensive phono pre-amps are MM only, but there are those catering for both MM and MC - though these can be more expensive.
Here's the turntable manual, if you don't have one: Attaching The Cartridge - Pioneer PL-530 Operating Instructions Manual [Page 3] | ManualsLib
Kenmore speakers?? Wow. Are they as big as a washing machine? I want pics, I want pics! 🙂
This little phono preamp works great. DJPRE II – Phono Preamplifier – ART Pro Audio They used to make one without the volume control (which you won't need) but I can't find it now.
This little phono preamp works great. DJPRE II – Phono Preamplifier – ART Pro Audio They used to make one without the volume control (which you won't need) but I can't find it now.
JVC RX-D206 receiver - 270mv input sensitivity.
A phono preamplifier with volume control might be useful for level matching.
A phono preamplifier with volume control might be useful for level matching.
Might be best to put the preamp next to the turntable and 'drive' the 10 foot cable with the preamp. Less potential for noise and better impedance matching.
Definitely the way to go, yes!
However, I don't understand the distancing of a turntable from its amp.
In my opinion, it's a poor setup, meaning you have to do some walking to use the volume control or other settings, unless of course, the amp has a remote control.
However, I don't understand the distancing of a turntable from its amp.
In my opinion, it's a poor setup, meaning you have to do some walking to use the volume control or other settings, unless of course, the amp has a remote control.
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