Hello DIY speaker builder,
my name is Daniel and I work in Germany as an loudspeaker designer (engineer). All of my customers and friends ask me for speakers for the mounting on a wall. So I made some designs and finished a speakers for walls. My goal was, a speaker that sound like a floor standing speaker and should have a open clear sound. The speakers should also have the frequency response under angle (15°, 30° and 45°) close to the 0° angle measurement.
Please send me your comments and I will post everything you like to know.
I am really sorry for my bad English, I will work on it!
my name is Daniel and I work in Germany as an loudspeaker designer (engineer). All of my customers and friends ask me for speakers for the mounting on a wall. So I made some designs and finished a speakers for walls. My goal was, a speaker that sound like a floor standing speaker and should have a open clear sound. The speakers should also have the frequency response under angle (15°, 30° and 45°) close to the 0° angle measurement.
Please send me your comments and I will post everything you like to know.
I am really sorry for my bad English, I will work on it!
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Hello,
I love the look of your design. Welcome!
I'm in the thinking/planning stage of building in wall speakers and speakers built into large wall-to-wall TV cabinets.
The one issue that I'm unhappy about is having a hard flat surface between the
stereo pair. I can use absorption material between speakers on walls, but with TV cabinets there's nothing I can do with the flat TV.
Do you think the absence of good imaging is an issue for clients that desire this type of system? Maybe you have solutions? 🙂
I love the look of your design. Welcome!
I'm in the thinking/planning stage of building in wall speakers and speakers built into large wall-to-wall TV cabinets.
The one issue that I'm unhappy about is having a hard flat surface between the
stereo pair. I can use absorption material between speakers on walls, but with TV cabinets there's nothing I can do with the flat TV.
Do you think the absence of good imaging is an issue for clients that desire this type of system? Maybe you have solutions? 🙂
I'm not a big fan of wall mounted speakers ... vibrations are transferred directly to the wall making your entire house go bwhoohohohoho on a bassy song. HOWEVER, nice work and looks very nice indeed!
Thank you for your reply. I solve this issue with a thin foam behind the speaker. Also on the floor you can use absorber. I work since 4 years on the on wall solution and I have to say, the vibration on the back wall is a small problem. More difficult is the off axis response of a system like this.
Hey Daniel, your English is great! Much better than my German, and I am married to a lovely woman from Bavaria.
I am a little confused by your picture. Is the loudspeaker only the red portion, or also the gold colored "box" as well. It was not clear to me if the gold box is meant to represent the wall or not.
I own a pair of wall speakers made by Martin-Logan, the Motion SLM:
MartinLogan Ultra-Slim Motion(R) Series, Premium compact home theater speakers
Very thin - they are less than 2 inches thick! Mounted on wall they are very unobtrusive in the room. Sounds good - drivers seem up to the task. But these speakers cannot provide a good soundstage, or realism. They are just for casual listening in my home. The speaker does not have much bass output below 150Hz, so bass coupling to the wall is not a problem. Who would build a wall-mounted subwoofer anyway? That would be stupid - in the USA anyway. Most homes here have wooden stud walls and sheetrock on top. Very easy to "move" this structure. In Germany you might have homes with cinder block interior walls, and the vibration problem would then be much less severe.
I would reduce the system to just with the MTM (upper part) of your proposed speaker. Then put more capable woofers at the floor. Putting the lower woofers on the wall is just making the system larger, and there is that vibration problem. A small MTM can still reach 150Hz or less, which is a good crossover point for a subwoofer that can be located in some unobtrusive place in the room. I am planning to add a separate sub to my wall-mounted speakers using this approach.
I am a little confused by your picture. Is the loudspeaker only the red portion, or also the gold colored "box" as well. It was not clear to me if the gold box is meant to represent the wall or not.
I own a pair of wall speakers made by Martin-Logan, the Motion SLM:
MartinLogan Ultra-Slim Motion(R) Series, Premium compact home theater speakers
Very thin - they are less than 2 inches thick! Mounted on wall they are very unobtrusive in the room. Sounds good - drivers seem up to the task. But these speakers cannot provide a good soundstage, or realism. They are just for casual listening in my home. The speaker does not have much bass output below 150Hz, so bass coupling to the wall is not a problem. Who would build a wall-mounted subwoofer anyway? That would be stupid - in the USA anyway. Most homes here have wooden stud walls and sheetrock on top. Very easy to "move" this structure. In Germany you might have homes with cinder block interior walls, and the vibration problem would then be much less severe.
I would reduce the system to just with the MTM (upper part) of your proposed speaker. Then put more capable woofers at the floor. Putting the lower woofers on the wall is just making the system larger, and there is that vibration problem. A small MTM can still reach 150Hz or less, which is a good crossover point for a subwoofer that can be located in some unobtrusive place in the room. I am planning to add a separate sub to my wall-mounted speakers using this approach.
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Hi Daniel,
I also had made a research some years before about the most proper shape that should have an on-wall loudspeaker for good frequency response.
If you are interested you will find all the information in my article that was published in Linear Audio magazine: Linear Audio | your tech audio resource
regards
George
I also had made a research some years before about the most proper shape that should have an on-wall loudspeaker for good frequency response.
If you are interested you will find all the information in my article that was published in Linear Audio magazine: Linear Audio | your tech audio resource
regards
George
I'm about to build a pair mounted to the wall as well and that is the one aspect I'm having issues with. I can isolate the rear of the cabinet, sleeve the fasteners with absorbent and use absorbent under the fastener washers. That still produces unwanted vibrations being transferred into the studs.
Best I can come up with so far is to mount additional vibration isolators to the inside of the mounting studs. That and limit the enclosures bottom end to 80Hz and use a sub to augment further down.
All in all it still might not be optimal. Good luck with your project Daniel.
Hello George,
I am very interested in learning. So it would be a pleasure to read your ideas and your results.
All the best, Daniel
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