tonight i'm at a crossroads so to speak. all my life i have been a non hype and subjective listener.
recently i am doing a revamp of my seated view of my system.
after watching some youtube vids and other forum claims to lift off the floor your cables. this to me sounded like hog wash.
i have some scrap black walnut . after work i made some blocks , nothing fancy just 3 1/2 high x 6 long x 2 thick. placed these under my cables and right away although subtle a focused improvement. the best way for me to explain it is what is in the back ground of a track seems deeper and what is meant to be width placed seems wider.
so me being a non follower of hype is stunned right now. this makes me listen to a list of tracks mp3 , cd and lp.
what seems to make the biggest impact is in the front to back expansion or 3d if you will.
sarah connor track bounce, at first the sounds of traffic are sureal. i wanted to be 100% sure what i was hearing right and asked my wife to sit and listen.
not telling her anything was changed she sat down and i played bounce , straight away she looked funny and got up to look out the window asking if somebody was here.
my back faces windows to a street and this track with the cables up sound like traffic outside, remove the blocks and it sounds like from the speakers.
even just one side up sounds like it is. the side that is up is more focused .
so my wife proved im not out of my mind. but how can this be?
what the hell is going on and what else have i missed.
recently i am doing a revamp of my seated view of my system.
after watching some youtube vids and other forum claims to lift off the floor your cables. this to me sounded like hog wash.
i have some scrap black walnut . after work i made some blocks , nothing fancy just 3 1/2 high x 6 long x 2 thick. placed these under my cables and right away although subtle a focused improvement. the best way for me to explain it is what is in the back ground of a track seems deeper and what is meant to be width placed seems wider.
so me being a non follower of hype is stunned right now. this makes me listen to a list of tracks mp3 , cd and lp.
what seems to make the biggest impact is in the front to back expansion or 3d if you will.
sarah connor track bounce, at first the sounds of traffic are sureal. i wanted to be 100% sure what i was hearing right and asked my wife to sit and listen.
not telling her anything was changed she sat down and i played bounce , straight away she looked funny and got up to look out the window asking if somebody was here.
my back faces windows to a street and this track with the cables up sound like traffic outside, remove the blocks and it sounds like from the speakers.
even just one side up sounds like it is. the side that is up is more focused .
so my wife proved im not out of my mind. but how can this be?
what the hell is going on and what else have i missed.
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This kind of thing is not uncommon, and notwithstanding the tricks our minds sometimes play there needs to be some kind of scientific explaination. The issue I've found is typically that I'm not immediately sure where to begin looking for such an effect.
So to get you started I might throw a wild guess out there. Is it possible that a polymer based carpet is exacerbating cable capacitance and imposing dielectric based inadequacies upon it? Such might not have a great influence on a speaker but it might do more to affect an amplifier.
So to get you started I might throw a wild guess out there. Is it possible that a polymer based carpet is exacerbating cable capacitance and imposing dielectric based inadequacies upon it? Such might not have a great influence on a speaker but it might do more to affect an amplifier.
Human will can be an insanely powerful thing. Humans are also, as religion noticed long ago, incredibly flawed beings capable of psychosomatic disorders and delusions of grandeur. smilyface.
Honestly, considering the low impedance a nominally 8 ohm loudspeaker presents to the output of a good quality solid state amplifier (presumably that is what you are using), any increase or decrease in capacitance that might be attributable to cable position above the floor will have an absolutely negligible effect on the audio quality heard. from the speakers.
The only effect I could imagine might be happening is that in raising the cables above floor level is that of 'radio breakthrough', this is where the cables are acting as an antenna for a local A.M radio station and where the amplifier output stage is detecting the A.M signal, but is at such a level as not to be obvious but whispers in the background. It's essentially unwanted noise injection.
C.M
The only effect I could imagine might be happening is that in raising the cables above floor level is that of 'radio breakthrough', this is where the cables are acting as an antenna for a local A.M radio station and where the amplifier output stage is detecting the A.M signal, but is at such a level as not to be obvious but whispers in the background. It's essentially unwanted noise injection.
C.M
guys thank you
just got home from work and i decided to lift my power cables as well. i use furutech alpha 3 diy power cables on my diy 150watt mono block mosfet amps. mogami speaker cables.
also i'm in a attic built listening room 12 x 15 x 7. dead silent.
this seems to make the bass more solid at first try but still too early listening.
what i'm next to do is put some walnut under my pc i use for mp3, flac and dsd.
so far i'm loving what i hear
just got home from work and i decided to lift my power cables as well. i use furutech alpha 3 diy power cables on my diy 150watt mono block mosfet amps. mogami speaker cables.
also i'm in a attic built listening room 12 x 15 x 7. dead silent.
this seems to make the bass more solid at first try but still too early listening.
what i'm next to do is put some walnut under my pc i use for mp3, flac and dsd.
so far i'm loving what i hear
Maple will give you a sweeter sound. Ash will be firmer and more solid. If you want to lighten the sound a bit, try balsa.
I was a bit surprised to hear a difference when 'cables lifters' were used in a high rise situation and we figured out it was possibly the effect of all the steel reinforcing in the building's floors and walls
IMO, even if it's a 'placebo effect' but it seems to works for you, why not just go with it - it's a pretty cheap 'upgrade', imaginary or not, and you've done something positive about improving your system - next project, it might be some simple, 'WAF acceptable' room acoustic treatment that are very effective indeed.
IMO, even if it's a 'placebo effect' but it seems to works for you, why not just go with it - it's a pretty cheap 'upgrade', imaginary or not, and you've done something positive about improving your system - next project, it might be some simple, 'WAF acceptable' room acoustic treatment that are very effective indeed.
Ah... Cognitive biases at work. Specifically, experimenter bias and confirmation bias.
List of cognitive biases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you want more dark space between instruments in the sound stage, try ebony...
~Tom
List of cognitive biases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you want more dark space between instruments in the sound stage, try ebony...
~Tom
One problem is that 'really good' cable lifters can be quite expensive, and only sold in boutique hi-fi stores or special online websites where their elusive and ethereal aspects are extolled, but it seems their main reliably identifiable effect is lifting funds from buyers' wallets.
I think I've posted this "Audio Myths Workshop" a time or two before, but it's always fun to repeat. Some of it's amusing, some of it's rather dry, but it's all good info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
I think I've posted this "Audio Myths Workshop" a time or two before, but it's always fun to repeat. Some of it's amusing, some of it's rather dry, but it's all good info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
I'm guessing it's in Volume 2: "Testing one, two, three..." http://linearaudio.net/volumes/783
Too bad you can't just buy that one article.
The Wikipedia article on the Clever Hans is pretty informative. Clever Hans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
~Tom
Too bad you can't just buy that one article.
The Wikipedia article on the Clever Hans is pretty informative. Clever Hans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
~Tom
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I my home, I had an exorcism performed the other day, wasn't cheap 🙄, however I had ghosts and spirits roaming around my audio equipment, so what we all know that these entities are energy charge and also they like to drop the room temperature causing interference and the changes of density of the air .
THE IMPROVEMENT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE 😀 OUT THIS WORLD EXPERIENCE
My next diy improvement is to get rid of all the alien and out of space interference, and I shall trash my engineering degree that is hanging on the wall due is retelling when I play music at high levels.
THE IMPROVEMENT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE 😀 OUT THIS WORLD EXPERIENCE
My next diy improvement is to get rid of all the alien and out of space interference, and I shall trash my engineering degree that is hanging on the wall due is retelling when I play music at high levels.
come on guys stop holding back on the real secret behind cable lifters(wood is the least effective material to use) triangular widgets of 100% unobtainium are the best! and you have unsure that every 3.3 feet of length be decoupled with a tesseract choke. failing to do this will result in unzipping the fabric of the space time continuum and doom us all
i checked my calendar it's march not april
i checked my calendar it's march not april
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