I have a project with a LM1036 that I would like to replace with something less noisy. I'm pretty sure I'm going to try the TDA7439, but before I do I thought I'd ask here. Any other suggestions for a tone control IC are welcome.
TDA7439 datasheet is here:
http://www.st.com/web/en/resource/technical/document/datasheet/CD00010668.pdf
And the noisy LM1036:
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm1036.pdf
Thanks!
TDA7439 datasheet is here:
http://www.st.com/web/en/resource/technical/document/datasheet/CD00010668.pdf
And the noisy LM1036:
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm1036.pdf
Thanks!
Looks very similar to TDA7318 which I used many, many moons ago. I noticed no problems with noise. This part has a mid-range control which the 7318 lacks.
Looks very similar to TDA7318 which I used many, many moons ago. I noticed no problems with noise. This part has a mid-range control which the 7318 lacks.
Thanks! That does indeed look similar to the tda7439. Same S/N ratio of 106db, and looking at the datasheet it looks like they're closely related.
I've made an amplifier based on this chip (see this post). I found the tone control (especially mid range) quite aggressive, but it could be due to the values I've choosen for external components (or maybe 2dB steps are too large). Leaving the controls flat, the sound is very good and the inputs switch and volume control work very well.
One thing that I don't understand from the datasheet is the internal structure of the mid and bass tone controls; datasheet shows in and out pins where to connect external components, but I can't figure out how the active part works. I found ST datasheets are always too poor of information.Can someone explain me? Thanks.
One thing that I don't understand from the datasheet is the internal structure of the mid and bass tone controls; datasheet shows in and out pins where to connect external components, but I can't figure out how the active part works. I found ST datasheets are always too poor of information.Can someone explain me? Thanks.
I've made an amplifier based on this chip (see this post). I found the tone control (especially mid range) quite aggressive, but it could be due to the values I've choosen for external components (or maybe 2dB steps are too large). Leaving the controls flat, the sound is very good and the inputs switch and volume control work very well.
One thing that I don't understand from the datasheet is the internal structure of the mid and bass tone controls; datasheet shows in and out pins where to connect external components, but I can't figure out how the active part works. I found ST datasheets are always too poor of information.Can someone explain me? Thanks.
I don't think you need to know how the active part works, you just need to use the equations on p. 9 to get the behavior that you want. Just choose the gain (Av) and Q that you want and then solve each equation on p. 9 starting at the top. Ri is fixed, so you don't even need to choose a value to start. For the midrange Ri = Rm = 25k
I would also lower the Q in addition to the gain. With high Q, the high gain settings are useless. From the equation for Q on p. 8 it looks like they chose a Q of 1.5, I would choose something lower like 1 or maybe even less?
Btw, what did you think about the noise of the TDA7439 with the gain cranked up? This is my main complaint against the LM1036.
Yes, this is clear. I was just inquiring on how the stage work.I don't think you need to know how the active part works, you just need to use the equations on p. 9 to get the behavior that you want. Just choose the gain (Av) and Q that you want and then solve each equation on p. 9 starting at the top. Ri is fixed, so you don't even need to choose a value to start. For the midrange Ri = Rm = 25k
Regarding the noise, with the input gain stage and volume at 0dB, the amp is totally silent. With my hear just in front of the tweeter the noise is almost inaudible.
My power stage needs 1V for 60W output, so, with a -10dBV signal I have to set the input gain at +10dB. Even so, there's no audible noise, but sourcing input will destroy my hears, so... an exellent SNR in my opinion.
Regards.
Yes, this is clear. I was just inquiring on how the stage work.
Sorry, I really misinterpreted that. I think the last two paragraphs in the data sheet description are about as far as you're going to get without talking to someone at st-micro...
Regarding the noise, with the input gain stage and volume at 0dB, the amp is totally silent. With my hear just in front of the tweeter the noise is almost inaudible.
My power stage needs 1V for 60W output, so, with a -10dBV signal I have to set the input gain at +10dB. Even so, there's no audible noise, but sourcing input will destroy my hears, so... an exellent SNR in my opinion.
Regards.
Awesome, this is exactly what I want to hear. Thank you!
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Arduino C Code for the TDA7439
If you are using an Arduino to drive the IC you can find an almost complete implementation of the code needed at:
https://github.com/ahuxtable/TDA7439
If you are using an Arduino to drive the IC you can find an almost complete implementation of the code needed at:
https://github.com/ahuxtable/TDA7439
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