While hanging out at hobby lobby I ran across this thick piece of basswood and I thought that it might make a fun isolation platform project. I grabbed some spherical wooded knobs and headed over to Guitar Center for some Moongel. I first encountered Moongel while building and flying RC helicopters. We used it on our gyros because it has phenomenal vibration damping characteristics.
This the way you see it below has really opened up the sound. Clarity is much improved and bass is tighter with more defined notes. I'm also noticing a considerably blacker background. The Moongel isn't doing much for footfalls on the suspended floor but I'm extremely happy otherwise. I think this combo would be great on a wall shelf in this room. Building or buying a wall shelf is next on the list.
This the way you see it below has really opened up the sound. Clarity is much improved and bass is tighter with more defined notes. I'm also noticing a considerably blacker background. The Moongel isn't doing much for footfalls on the suspended floor but I'm extremely happy otherwise. I think this combo would be great on a wall shelf in this room. Building or buying a wall shelf is next on the list.
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Took it another step with more improvement. Took the feet from the TT and attached them to a bamboo panel. Sound is razor sharp with the only downfall being that the accuracy reveals bad recording more than before. Footfalls are damped much better now as well.
Hi,
Pardon my cynicism, but if your looking at isolation look
at the various grades of squash balls, and the feet.
It is hardly surprising #2 is better than #1.
rgds, sreten.
Pardon my cynicism, but if your looking at isolation look
at the various grades of squash balls, and the feet.
It is hardly surprising #2 is better than #1.
rgds, sreten.
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Would you please expound? I understand the squash balls but what do you mean by "and the feet"?
Are you familiar with moon gel? I get about 3mm movement on the x and z axis and 1mm in the y (vertical) axis. I also get +/- 3° Rotational movement. The Moongel is between the basswood and the bamboo panel. The idea is that the wood balls are transferring vibrational energy to the basswood which acts like a sink. The Moongel under the basswood and the feet under the panel help to isolate the TT from vibrations coming up from the floor.
I respect you opinion. With all of the responses that I've read of yours you are apparently have perhaps the most expertise on these forums.
Are you familiar with moon gel? I get about 3mm movement on the x and z axis and 1mm in the y (vertical) axis. I also get +/- 3° Rotational movement. The Moongel is between the basswood and the bamboo panel. The idea is that the wood balls are transferring vibrational energy to the basswood which acts like a sink. The Moongel under the basswood and the feet under the panel help to isolate the TT from vibrations coming up from the floor.
I respect you opinion. With all of the responses that I've read of yours you are apparently have perhaps the most expertise on these forums.
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The large 'technics turntable'like feet ik think he meant.
On picture one bearly see any absorbers for horizontal movement.
Btw, how old is moongel?, My father flies also helicopters,,electric and we've never heard of it.
gr.richard
On picture one bearly see any absorbers for horizontal movement.
Btw, how old is moongel?, My father flies also helicopters,,electric and we've never heard of it.
gr.richard
Moongel has been around for a long time. It's used by drummers to dampen their drum skins for shorter decay. The "Milton Mod" and Moongel always worked well for me. Many don't use it because it isn't that adhesive so it won't hold a gyro/FBL controller on its own.
You'd be surprised how much horizontal movement there is. It feels like the basswood is sitting on a jello mold though less "jiggly". I used two layers of Moongel in 9 spots on the bottom of the basswood. Moongel comes in approximately 1"x1.5"x0.25" pieces.
You'd be surprised how much horizontal movement there is. It feels like the basswood is sitting on a jello mold though less "jiggly". I used two layers of Moongel in 9 spots on the bottom of the basswood. Moongel comes in approximately 1"x1.5"x0.25" pieces.
Yikes, how's that for some grammar? Nearly impossible to make a snide comment when you butcher sentences like that LOL.
I did much the same thing recently.... using a bamboo cutting board supported by #2 "Vibrapods" 🙂
The adjustable "spikes" are mainly for precision leveling.
Yeah..... I need to get a better head phone amp to feed my Grado phones. 😉
BTW, the C-Moy is just for my mp3 player...to adjust (sound) levels as the level of some of my mp3s can very greatly.
With the 6X -AA....... batteries can last up to a year.
The adjustable "spikes" are mainly for precision leveling.
Yeah..... I need to get a better head phone amp to feed my Grado phones. 😉
BTW, the C-Moy is just for my mp3 player...to adjust (sound) levels as the level of some of my mp3s can very greatly.
With the 6X -AA....... batteries can last up to a year.
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So the suspended floor in the bedroom loft that I use as my listening room was wreaking havoc on the TT. I decided to install a wall shelf and it makes a marked improvement. The two cutting boards that I'm using for the shelf are separated by a double thick layer of moongel that offers 2mm of movement in the X plane and 1mm in the Y plane. I have better focus and separation with the new setup. total cost including the cutting boards was about $50.
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