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Default His Master's Noise: A Thoroughly Modern Tube Phono Preamp

After more than 25 years of faithful service, it seemed that it might be time to redo my phono system. After all, I like to think that I've picked up a few tricks in the intervening years... The old system consisted of a VPI HW17-II, a Linn Ittok LVII tonearm, and a Troika cartridge. The Troika was...

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11th November 2016
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Le voila

HMN_A.jpg


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11th November 2016
cogeniac
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Nice!!

Looks like you laid out the board slightly differently than me, but used the same partitioning (amp and CCSs on one board, power supplies on another). Is the power stuff on the bottom side of the chassis? Do you have the raw supply in a separate box?
11th November 2016
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I would redo the boards -- with each channel on a separate pcb:

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11th November 2016
cogeniac
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Why is that? Channel separation, or having exactly the same arrangement of parts?
12th November 2016
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Less expensive. Less clumsy organization of DMosfet heat sinks.
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12th November 2016
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I just went over a couple dozen reviews of phono-preamps in Stereophile. The best which JA had reviewed (Boulder 1008, $12k) MC section had THD+N% of 0.065% The HMN is about 0.02% JA mentioned that the Boulder had overload margin (1% THD) of 33dB relative to 5mV for the MM section. Bit of an apples to oranges comparison, but the HMN isn't even perspiring at +33dB relative to 500uV (considering that it is designed for MC carts.) JA doesn't provide an overload margin for the Boulder's MC section.

In fairness, the Boulder is quieter than the HMN.
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18th November 2016
cogeniac
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One wonders if $ per nV/root-Hz is equivalent. At about $600 for the HMN preamp vs $12K for the Boulder.. I suspect not!!
18th November 2016
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This may be heresy, but if one uses a MM cartridge with a higher output level, do you need the transformer? Could you just wire the cartridge in a balanced circuit to the system without the 10:1 Sowter transformers?
18th November 2016
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@cogeniac -- about the middle of the article it was mentioned that you could dispense with the trafo at the disadvantage of having an imbalanced input. You could always use a 1:1 trafo but remember to load the cartridge with ~47k for most MM's
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18th November 2016
cogeniac
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Ahh. Thanks ! I'll go back and re-read...Don;t currently have the budget for a $6K cartridge!!




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