Hi everyone .
I have never designed and used software to build speaker cabinet so I have to start from scratch.
I don't even know exactly what it takes. from what I have read, software to do simulations and software with microphone to record the response after building the cabinet with the speakers, so that corrections can be made if necessary.
I cannot waste much time studying the user manual and therefore I ask you to indicate the simplest and most intuitive software possible together with a cheap but decent quality microphone.
bye thank you
I have never designed and used software to build speaker cabinet so I have to start from scratch.
I don't even know exactly what it takes. from what I have read, software to do simulations and software with microphone to record the response after building the cabinet with the speakers, so that corrections can be made if necessary.
I cannot waste much time studying the user manual and therefore I ask you to indicate the simplest and most intuitive software possible together with a cheap but decent quality microphone.
bye thank you
I'd like to know the same thing. What is the good new stuff?
I'm still using WinISD, IMP and CALSOD! Please don't laugh at me!
I'm still using WinISD, IMP and CALSOD! Please don't laugh at me!
Yes, it does work very well. But I have to use it with an old computer that has a parallel printer port! I have not used it since I moved and I have no idea where the correct cable is! I hope I can find it!
The problem with simple and intuitive is that such programs often don't account for enough of the real world factors that affect the final outcome of the project.
So, for programs that are a bit more complete, VituixCAD for the design work and REW for the measurement side.
Sonarworks SoundID is, AFIK, the most affordable measurement mic that comes with an individual calibration file.
Many people seem to accept that the Behringer UMC202HD is a decent enough starting point for the mic preamp/interface, though I went with the Swissonic UA2x2 which is pretty close - for anything I'll do I won't need the 192kHz sampling that the Behringer offers.
So, for programs that are a bit more complete, VituixCAD for the design work and REW for the measurement side.
Sonarworks SoundID is, AFIK, the most affordable measurement mic that comes with an individual calibration file.
Many people seem to accept that the Behringer UMC202HD is a decent enough starting point for the mic preamp/interface, though I went with the Swissonic UA2x2 which is pretty close - for anything I'll do I won't need the 192kHz sampling that the Behringer offers.
CALSOD is anything but simple and intuitve. It does a really good job assuming your speaker measuremnet/models are aso good. And it properly handles not postitioning, time alignment, BSC etc. It's the real deal but I don't know if it is still available. Where does one get REW? Do you have a link to a product page? Thanks.
Sorry, should've given links to it all:
VituixCAD: https://kimmosaunisto.net/Software/Software.html
REW: https://www.roomeqwizard.com/
Mic: https://www.thomann.de/gb/sonarworks_soundid_ref_measurement_micro.htm
Interfaces: https://www.thomann.de/gb/swissonic_ua_2x2.htm, https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_u_phoria_umc204hd.htm
VituixCAD: https://kimmosaunisto.net/Software/Software.html
REW: https://www.roomeqwizard.com/
Mic: https://www.thomann.de/gb/sonarworks_soundid_ref_measurement_micro.htm
Interfaces: https://www.thomann.de/gb/swissonic_ua_2x2.htm, https://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_u_phoria_umc204hd.htm
I think it is all a black art.
For a given speaker driver I have, I have tried a number of different design programs (including yours) that input the same information, but come up with widely differing answers, and which are different again to that recommended by the manufacturer. Take your pick where you want to put your efforts because the results are not even near each other!
I have got to the stage that I think can try any box size and if it sounds OK then that is fine. I don't want to stick a microphone in front of the speaker to tell me it is good or bad.
But given the widely differing answers I get, I believe there is too much focus on getting the numbers right rather than getting the sound right.
I thought there might be more consistency and therefore reliability in the results. I would have thought I would get relatively consistent results out of the different programs, confirming the results.
Why did this conversation end? This is a great question. And, the previous reply calls for responses either confirming or challenging from those with experience.
It is a tool, if you don’t know what you are doing it won’t really get you there
My sim runs on an ancient G4 tower in emulation to run MacSpeakerz. It gets me started but I design the box.
Since the math is well established you get similar results.
Sealed is fairly straight forward but add a hole and you have more degree of freedom and it becomes more likely you have a mess than a success.
Now make the box tall & skinny, you have more freedom to screw up, and none of the aforementioned SW works.
So for success you are going to have to learn some stuff and much of of what you need to learn is not in the manual.
For this reason it is strongly suggested to do a proven design as the easiest way to get some speed
dave
Oh, there is plenty of people willing to waste their own time to help you in any way. Sit tight. 🙂
First, simulation and measuring are two pairs of shoes.
There is no really simple simulation software around, if you want it precise and universal. So you end up with some time spend on learning. You will need about an hour or two until you have your first usable result.
From my perspective, today Hornresp is a very good choice for simulation. It may seem complicated at first sight, but now there are all kinds of help files and tutorials around. Once you entered the first data, you will soon understand it. As it has all kinds of options, you do not have to learn a second program, if your ideas change.
For measuring, of the free programs REW seems to be the fastest way to success and some kind of standard. You can do your first measurement without any additonal hardware, if your laptop has a build in speaker and microphone.
There is no really simple simulation software around, if you want it precise and universal. So you end up with some time spend on learning. You will need about an hour or two until you have your first usable result.
From my perspective, today Hornresp is a very good choice for simulation. It may seem complicated at first sight, but now there are all kinds of help files and tutorials around. Once you entered the first data, you will soon understand it. As it has all kinds of options, you do not have to learn a second program, if your ideas change.
For measuring, of the free programs REW seems to be the fastest way to success and some kind of standard. You can do your first measurement without any additonal hardware, if your laptop has a build in speaker and microphone.