So you are diagnosing me! 🙂
Actually, what I was trying to do was give an example where your usual intuition might encounter an unanticipated set of conditions. Picked an example that readily came to mind since it happened just recently. Reason for giving an example is because I think you should be careful not to oversimply and throw people in the same bucket when there may be a lot you don't know. Just something to think about.
No , I used to enjoy music for the music itself but because I got lost in the hobby of sound shaping I stopped listening to music and developing my musical horizons or shall I say I paused it until I get the system of "sufficient" quality. Sufficient is an elusive word in this game...You and people like you can and are enjoying music on many levels , also from Insider ( musician) point of view. I only wanted to be a spectator and get a pleasure from purely esthetic point of view or be simply entertained . I have the deepest conviction that composers of the past are turning in their graves listening to all BS being spewed about their music. Explaining art is a futile exercise but it has to be done nowadays because it needs to sell.
As it stands now I don't want to have a system mimicking live performance and offering suspension of disbelief.
Sound signature has to have clearly mechanical origin with some pleasant attributes. All the best .
As it stands now I don't want to have a system mimicking live performance and offering suspension of disbelief.
Sound signature has to have clearly mechanical origin with some pleasant attributes. All the best .
Oh , and I only dare to comment here given my failures in assembling system of " sufficient " quality because contrary to what people claims are regarding their systems apparently very few people are successful in that field.
Kind of. I'll prescribe you the medication 🙂
Limono, very pragmatic view in these two last lines of post #44. I wish I could decide that too.
For the rest of the post, I find great similarities. Best to you too.
George
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I like listening to a 1910 wax cylinder recording of Caruso, 1920's recordings of Jack Hylton's orchestra, 1930's recordings of The Comedian Harmonists and live broadcasts of a small jazz band via a replica 1930's FM broadcast transmitter received using slope detection on a 1920's radio. It's obviously not HiFi, but it doesn't bother me.
Oh ,I am. I just don't want to have expectations from the system interfering with listening. I bought a Cassette player yesterday and a good one ( Nak DR-2). Listening to Pavarotti right now. SQ is pretty abysmal but I can clearly hear its Luciano and the reasons he was a God. I'm able to listen to the whole side. ( trying to convince myself that it's not partially due to being too lazy to go and change the track ) Damn it , people walked a day to be able to hear a new piece of music or see the art , were reading poetry and 500 pages of a novel and now we can't listen to one side of the record without the urge to use the remote and picking the disc from the shelf became the labor of love and impossibly difficult task.
Unfortunately, that's true. However, there are a few people out there who are successful to the point of being expert. Not me, although I did pro sound reinforcement for 7-years right after college. Small rooms, 10,000 arenas, and a whole lot in between. Mostly Altec and JBL in those days. We even did room correction with spectrum analyzers way back then. Cal Perkins and some other people came though the same place, Swanson Sound (a once fairly major west coast sound company). Now a have a friend who came up through a different path and is far more expert than me, faaaar more. Its can be frustrating at times that he always turns out to be right in the end 🙂
If it helps to put it in perspective, Nelson Pass once quipped my friend still has one of the best pairs of ears in the business. This guy can listen to a system and memorize its state, come back a month later and tell you if you made it better or worse, and what changed about the sound. Obviously, its a rare ability. Maybe kind of like somebody that could accurately recite 31,811 digits of pi from memory.
Only point here is that some experts do exist. The problem is figuring out who the are.
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Well , lets get back to original topic out of respect for the OP.
With DIY DAC's like with anything DIY it's a leap of faith and in most cases with slant chance of recovering sometimes considerable expenses. Because I liked Weiss 202 quite a bit and could not afford it I picked up Antelope Zodiac Gold (for which I acquired good linear PSU) . Did it because I found opinions of Zodiac being prefered over Nagra and Weiss DAcs. Personally I think Zodiak is far behind Weiss and both are supposedly totally outdated. When considerable expense is being considered I'd want to be sure I can afford to toss that money if project does not fulfil it's promise.
Having said that I have no idea what are the prices of aforementioned DAC projects . Can you enlighten me? After all I too have a "Quiet " audio purpose built PC , 10T HD filled with music half of which are high Res files...
With DIY DAC's like with anything DIY it's a leap of faith and in most cases with slant chance of recovering sometimes considerable expenses. Because I liked Weiss 202 quite a bit and could not afford it I picked up Antelope Zodiac Gold (for which I acquired good linear PSU) . Did it because I found opinions of Zodiac being prefered over Nagra and Weiss DAcs. Personally I think Zodiak is far behind Weiss and both are supposedly totally outdated. When considerable expense is being considered I'd want to be sure I can afford to toss that money if project does not fulfil it's promise.
Having said that I have no idea what are the prices of aforementioned DAC projects . Can you enlighten me? After all I too have a "Quiet " audio purpose built PC , 10T HD filled with music half of which are high Res files...
Andrea has offered some bundles that start at around $1500 Euros. Still need a case, and a few other things. Less than what my old Benchmark DAC-3 cost. Either one is probably too much for a lot of people. Even Topping D90 at around $700(?) or so, was probably too high for the bulk of the market.
That brings up another problem, how to get cost of ownership down for a particular type of sound so more people can participate if they want.
That brings up another problem, how to get cost of ownership down for a particular type of sound so more people can participate if they want.
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Dac is only one piece of sound system puzzle. Besides , it will occupy people here for one week and after that they will be ready to move on to the next high end industry beating project ...I keep saying this over the years that you can't beat the industry on their turf. To do that you have to change the playground but like Old Bob is singing ( and I became fond of him after he totally lost his voice and the rest of decency) " "what do you mean you can't, of course you can "
Really? Most here adhere and aspire to the mainstream standard of music reproduction and try to join that club without incurring the expenses. There is little else going on. Maybe 3% of real DIY. I assure you it's easier and more cost effective to get a job as a grave digger get the real thing and have real resale value on hand...