Acoustic Horn Design – The Easy Way (Ath4)

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The Goto horn you posted earlier is the S-175, in Japan denoted by 'morning glory type straight horn'.
It's a rather big horn - comparable in size with the early Western-Electric petal PA horn - and meant for low-midrange reproduction (Cut-off frequency: 175Hz).

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In the early 1920s, WE also produced a smaller variant; the WE 3A. The Japanese seem to like such trumpets.
 

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I wonder if dividing the interior into several subdomains would help here, that's something I want to try for a long time - I almost have it ready.

You can also try this - it's a flat-back version, "only" 17k of now slightly bigger elements.

Yeah, no go. Tried for a 12 hours or so and then ends with error, not enough memory. So needs at least 128GB or even more. Clearly ABEC isn't meant for such a massive meshes.
 
There's another practical implementation (courtesy of misog) -
(The raw waveguide measured with 4 ms window. I believe the driver is 18Sound NSD1095N and the woofers are 10".)

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I'd say don't do that, that's not how it works. Negative wall angle at the exit of a driver doesn't neccessarily mean that it produces a converging wavefronts. It depends on the phase plug and how far it reaches out. Also, it would resonate badly if done the way you suggest.
 
Another photo of a build of Pet007's design called STH12 (12" woofers; these ones are by a guy from Slovakia).

Waveguides designed with Ath in both cases, of course 🙂

The smurfed baffle wouldn't be my taste, but I like the veneer.


Radian drivers have negative throat angled (6 deg typically) - do you remember at which page Marcel shown sims with mirrored waveguide? For example 2" driver but 1" waveguide with mirrored throat.

Is this what you mean? (exit of the 475 on the right, half angle = 6°):

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Is this what you mean? (exit of the 475 on the right, half angle = 6°):

A cite from Radian:

The 951 driver differs from the 950 in that it has an aluminum insert that reduces the exit size.

With the 951, the aluminum insert mates seamlessly against the center pole and creates a taper from 1.600" to 1.400" at the exit over a distance of 0.872".

This gives a flare angle of minus 6.54 degrees.


The 1.4" diameter exit of the 951 closely matches the area of the phase plug slits.
 
If I understand this correctly, they have a driver with 1.6" at some diameter inside the driver and they can make it either 2" (950) or 1.4" (951) at the exit by using different conical sections from that point? If that's the case, I would rather not use the 951.

But then, I would not understand how "the 1.4" diameter exit of the 951 closely matches the area of the phase plug slits".
 
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Well, the angle 6.5 deg is not that large - maybe it's still just fine. You could easily try that with Ath+ABEC - simply use negative OS throat angle.

In this case it is really a minor difference. Would be interesting to see acoustic impedance though.
 

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