It is still (as everything🙂) a WIP - some a bit outdated info and pictures are in this thread: Three way horn system
Interesting driver, within the budget: Compression driver Oberton D72CN, 16 ohm, 1.4 inch (from the ATH4 thread).
It looks like there is serious breakup starting at 7kHz. That's less than 3 octaves of usable bandwidth (if using for hifi). The literature says "Audiophiles prepare yourself for goosebumps". It's not often you see that kind of marketing hype in a compression driver specification sheet.
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They traded big resonance issues above 10khz for smaller issues spread out over a larger frequency span.
Doesn't look as nice as beryllium, titanium nitride, or Radian aluminum below 19khz.
Probably still sounds ok.
Doesn't look as nice as beryllium, titanium nitride, or Radian aluminum below 19khz.
Probably still sounds ok.
The break up mode of the TeXtreme diaphragm depends on the the weave.
Thus the claimed "extended response" is indeed nothing more than a series of controlled resonances that may appeal to some audiophiles, but true to the original signal it ain't.
Eminence used to offer decent value for money, but nowadays their drivers are often more expensive than similar products of high-end brands, at least on this side of the pond.
For example, the excellent 18Sound ND3SN costs about the same as the N314X-8.
Thus the claimed "extended response" is indeed nothing more than a series of controlled resonances that may appeal to some audiophiles, but true to the original signal it ain't.
Eminence used to offer decent value for money, but nowadays their drivers are often more expensive than similar products of high-end brands, at least on this side of the pond.
For example, the excellent 18Sound ND3SN costs about the same as the N314X-8.
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The breakup behaviour of that Eminence doesn't really look nice. But below it is unusually clean.
Regards
Charles
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Charles
That's is a nice little driver and used in some HK-Audio tops.
The Acetate-film diaphragm is rather special. It sounds clear like metal, but never harsh. Best of all: it's cheaper than a dome tweeter (< €30).
Polyester, Polymer and Polyimide and other monomer-based materials are mostly used for smaller diaphragms and annular coax-drivers.
The entry level Neodymium RCF is another interesting 1" driver.
Its higher priced brother (ND350) - with Polyester dia - doesn't work below 1500 Hz, unless you force it.
The RCF ND340 with Polyimide diaphragm delivers about 3dB more output at 1000 Hz and therefore appears to be better suited to low crossover points.
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The CD78.26/245TW in combination with Sica's elliptical horn and 2, or 4x 6.5H1.5CP woofers are ingredients for a small MTM or 2.5 MMTMM (XO ≥ 1.8 KHz) that goes down to 30-35Hz in a mid-sized room.
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Still not decided which unit to buy, but I tend to prefer either one of the Sica drivers or RCF ND340, since the preferences for the driver are changed slightly. It will be used either as originally intended (above ca 2 - 3 kHz, in a small horn, most probably ES series) in the large 4 way stack or on the 260 (or maybe even 360) mm waveguide from the ATH thread with cardioid mid (8" - 10") for the "bedroom" system. I kind of feel these two applications are a bit in contradiction, so I may actually need two pairs of new drivers. I could use what I have, but I have not bought any new loudspeakers in a long time already🙂
Just an update, I bought a pair of Sica CD83.26 drivers for tweeter duties and they sound better to my ear than my CD500 and CP385Nd drivers. Not a night and day, but more comfortable to listen to. And for the (planned) Synergy horn, I finally got Beyma CP755Nd drivers, which were the best to my ear I have heard so far (for home applications).
The Sicas are quite budget, around 40 Eur each. The Beymas were second hand, but definitely more expensive.
Pelanj, I did a quick measurement of several CDs with the same horn awhile back that included a couple budget one. It was measured about 12" from the horn surface I didn't know exactly. FWIW here's the data.
https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-H812-1-Exponential-Horn-100x60-2-Bolt-270-304
I forgot to mention that if you're planning to buy the horn, please read the customers comments. The hole patterns weren't lined up with the CD on mine.
The PRV audio 1200 Hz "hole" is very odd!
Found it interesting that the 600Hz level was identical, and 600Hz to 1kHz response within 2 dB, while level above varied by as much as 6dB.
At 12", a little position difference can make a fairly large frequency HF response change with an exponential horn, how similar was the mic position to the horn center axis for the tests?
Thanks,
Art