For a non serious post... I'm really not trying to stress his animals and wouldn't really do the tweeter thing.
Over the weekend I was sitting outside trying to enjoy a nice day and the neighbor's little yappy dogs won't give it a rest. He won't keep them inside because they yap indoors. Now that I think about it they drive me indoors all the time. I'll go out to pick vegetables in the late afternoon, and yap, yap, yip yip yap.
Tried headphones, didn't work.
Turned on the amplifier, searched for sounds.
Didn't want to try high frequency because I have a well behaved dog.
Opened the doors and windows on that side of the house
Most effective sound so far... the male Gorilla scream.
Even with only 20W of power, it has an impressive effect outdoors.
I do want the human neighbor to hear it, but more importantly the dog.
I have some smaller speakers with Infinity Emit tweeters which should be capable of reproducing sounds above 20KHz. They could be moved outdoors temporarily but my main speakers have 2 10" woofers and weigh 70lbs and I don't care to move them. They are the ones I used the first time I tried the experiment.
Not that I want to blow up an amplifier doing this, but what about putting some ribbon tweeters up close to the fence with their own amplification source? How to enhance the source files which are probably mp3 or equivalent, remix them in a format to have high enhanced frequency sound?
I have a 275 gallon tote on that side of the house practically against the fence used for rain water collection. It has a 6" filling port on the top. Hmmm, wonder if I could find a surplus 12" woofer and port it into there or would that be a waste of time? Not like I am exactly making a productive use of my time doing any of this...
Maybe record the dogs and play them back 20dB higher with frequency hidden above 20KHz?
There is probably a good wolf recording out there...
Just having fun and blowing off some steam.
Yes I am aware the mature thing to do is to knock on the door and ask him to take them inside. Problem is I can still hear them yapping indoors. Wish people would just socialize their dogs...
Over the weekend I was sitting outside trying to enjoy a nice day and the neighbor's little yappy dogs won't give it a rest. He won't keep them inside because they yap indoors. Now that I think about it they drive me indoors all the time. I'll go out to pick vegetables in the late afternoon, and yap, yap, yip yip yap.
Tried headphones, didn't work.
Turned on the amplifier, searched for sounds.
Didn't want to try high frequency because I have a well behaved dog.
Opened the doors and windows on that side of the house
Most effective sound so far... the male Gorilla scream.
Even with only 20W of power, it has an impressive effect outdoors.
I do want the human neighbor to hear it, but more importantly the dog.
I have some smaller speakers with Infinity Emit tweeters which should be capable of reproducing sounds above 20KHz. They could be moved outdoors temporarily but my main speakers have 2 10" woofers and weigh 70lbs and I don't care to move them. They are the ones I used the first time I tried the experiment.
Not that I want to blow up an amplifier doing this, but what about putting some ribbon tweeters up close to the fence with their own amplification source? How to enhance the source files which are probably mp3 or equivalent, remix them in a format to have high enhanced frequency sound?
I have a 275 gallon tote on that side of the house practically against the fence used for rain water collection. It has a 6" filling port on the top. Hmmm, wonder if I could find a surplus 12" woofer and port it into there or would that be a waste of time? Not like I am exactly making a productive use of my time doing any of this...
Maybe record the dogs and play them back 20dB higher with frequency hidden above 20KHz?
There is probably a good wolf recording out there...
Just having fun and blowing off some steam.
Yes I am aware the mature thing to do is to knock on the door and ask him to take them inside. Problem is I can still hear them yapping indoors. Wish people would just socialize their dogs...
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Maybe you could socialize them for him. Be nice to the dogs, give them tiny treats when they shut up at your command. Tell your neighbor what you are doing, ask if he will help.
I vote for the piezo tweeters with a square wave signal at about 20K. 1-2 watts ought to be enough🙄 Let us know how it works as there is a dog and owner just like that near me.
That's a fine idea - yes... have permission from the owner before giving them treats.
So no one sees the fun in recreating the territorial howl of a gorilla?
Forget the tweeter idea, I'm not really trying to cause them distress.
So no one sees the fun in recreating the territorial howl of a gorilla?
Forget the tweeter idea, I'm not really trying to cause them distress.
You could buy a hundred or so of those cheap bulk drivers at madisound or parts express and make an array. Super loud and could make the "gorilla" have a 5 food wide mouth. 😀
Try to tolerate it. Neighbour disputes can escalate. The neighbours are almost certainly not causing a deliberate nuisance, they may just be struggling to control this aspect of their dogs behaviour. After you have made friends with them you will have a better idea what might be constructive.
Of course they could be hostile. That's a different matter.
Of course they could be hostile. That's a different matter.
Hi,
Check this link to a movie in youtube. This guy looked like has the same problem that you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmejVIQshMA
Check this link to a movie in youtube. This guy looked like has the same problem that you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmejVIQshMA
YES absolutley
POP CORN is definetley the best thing U can drop in neighbour garden
Give dogs gas and soon they be disposed off
Piezzo twitters is also good. play any tune on the 30 Khz band and over
😀
One of my internet chat buddies had a similar situation with her neighbour's dog, drove her insane almost.
Now, Tulla is an Archer and at the time didn't have a back garden long enough to practice in, so neighbour didn't know she was 'very silent and uber deadly'.
Anyhoo, one night she was moaning on voice chat that dog blah blah cant shot the cooker or the owner, could hear the thing yipyapping at 11pm her time (Chicago time) over her tv via voice chat.
"Do you have an old arra'"
"Yes, I do..... why?"
"Get a parcel tag, write the dogs name on it, tie it to arra' and put it on your neighbour's doorstep."
"Would you do this to your neighbours?"
"No, you don't want to know what I've done to my neighbours over their dog."
So, I watch on cam as T writes out label, ties it to arrow and off she goes, comes back and says:
"Done, now we see if it works"
It worked, dog no longer seen / heard yipyapping in the back yard BUT being walked on a lead 3x a day and owner picking up poop.
If you've got a problem cat - digging and pooping in flower beds etc - save your nasty dirty dishwater in a bucket..... when you see cat squatting in your flowerbed, chuck the dishwater on it.
Cat will slink off home, clean its self and puke all over owners house 😉 🙂
Or buy yourself a working strain JackRusselTerriorist...... they sort ANYTHING out 😀😀😀
Now, Tulla is an Archer and at the time didn't have a back garden long enough to practice in, so neighbour didn't know she was 'very silent and uber deadly'.
Anyhoo, one night she was moaning on voice chat that dog blah blah cant shot the cooker or the owner, could hear the thing yipyapping at 11pm her time (Chicago time) over her tv via voice chat.
"Do you have an old arra'"
"Yes, I do..... why?"
"Get a parcel tag, write the dogs name on it, tie it to arra' and put it on your neighbour's doorstep."
"Would you do this to your neighbours?"
"No, you don't want to know what I've done to my neighbours over their dog."
So, I watch on cam as T writes out label, ties it to arrow and off she goes, comes back and says:
"Done, now we see if it works"
It worked, dog no longer seen / heard yipyapping in the back yard BUT being walked on a lead 3x a day and owner picking up poop.
If you've got a problem cat - digging and pooping in flower beds etc - save your nasty dirty dishwater in a bucket..... when you see cat squatting in your flowerbed, chuck the dishwater on it.
Cat will slink off home, clean its self and puke all over owners house 😉 🙂
Or buy yourself a working strain JackRusselTerriorist...... they sort ANYTHING out 😀😀😀
You could just go over there, knock on the door, and when they answer politely ask them if they know the phone number to call to complain about a barking dog. 😉
Mike
Mike
P*** on it. The fence that is. All the time. They might get the idea that it's your territory. If you could get some gorilla or tiger p*** I'm sure it would awaken some genetic memories.
Seriously, talk to your neighbors. Let them know that there's a problem and that you don't want to be a jerk about it. The treats idea is a good one, ask if it's okay. Let them choose which ones, and let them pay... hopefully they'll offer. (Spray the treats with prozac) The main problems that we humans have to put up with are other humans, not dogs. Try to have fun with it. Good luck.
Seriously, talk to your neighbors. Let them know that there's a problem and that you don't want to be a jerk about it. The treats idea is a good one, ask if it's okay. Let them choose which ones, and let them pay... hopefully they'll offer. (Spray the treats with prozac) The main problems that we humans have to put up with are other humans, not dogs. Try to have fun with it. Good luck.
Two words, "Pet Zoom".
PetZoom Sonic Pet Trainer - BedBathandBeyond.com
Don't point it directly at the dog from closer than 15'. Bounce the signal off a wall.
I use one of these with my dogs, and it is to the point where I simply tell them to stop or I will "Zap" them. They are keyed to the word "Zap" and anything rectangular and blue.
The tool uses the ultrasonic sensor developed for Polaroid autofocus cameras.
PetZoom Sonic Pet Trainer - BedBathandBeyond.com
Don't point it directly at the dog from closer than 15'. Bounce the signal off a wall.
I use one of these with my dogs, and it is to the point where I simply tell them to stop or I will "Zap" them. They are keyed to the word "Zap" and anything rectangular and blue.
The tool uses the ultrasonic sensor developed for Polaroid autofocus cameras.
I agree.
Talking to someone as adults and with a spirit of mutual respect can often work wonders in neighbor disputes.
.22 rifle maybe? Combine a sonic boom with a resolution to the current issue. May create further neighbour problems though.
This is just a fun topic...
I'm not going to escalate the neighbor problems. We really don't have an issue other than the dogs which he is aware of but may not be so aware that it ruins my afternoons on the porch or hammock reading in peace.
He is renting the house, the house was on the market when I was out of town and it was bought and rented all in that time. Coming up on two years. He's not a bad neighbor at all, could be much worse! Especially with him not owning the property. I don't want him to get in trouble with his suspicious hobbies (nothing that is causing harm to any person).
The weather has basically sucked since I posted this with the exception of a couple of days where I was probably inside building mouser orders. I've seen him a couple of times but have been rushed without time to talk to him. Good neighbor, don't want a future rental tenant that is random luck or lack of luck. The owners don't seem to have a problem with 4 dogs in an urban / suburban relatively small house so yes, I could easily end up with bad neighbors since I don't have the money to buy the hose and control who lives there.
I'll talk to him about it, and I am sure he would understand. But then as part of the training there may need to be negative reinforcement. I don't care what most say about positive reinforcement only, from my experience there needs to positive reinforcement for the most part but domination as a form of negative reinforcement. Nothing that harms the animal. When I say dominate, I think of how I have sat on a dog to keep it from moving. Since there is a fence, I can't do that, (plus there are four of them, which could put me in harm's way) so I think of audio to create fear. (This is an audio forum) Just as it is in nature. The roar of the dominant male lion, gorilla, etc...
Male lion was the first thing I thought of but it didn't seem to work. Crocodile, elephant and ultimately the male dominant gorilla in order of increasing effectiveness. There may be some fictional dragon or monster noise but enough life has evolved on earth that I should be able to find something that would create a primordial wish to survive response.
I do have some property in East Texas that I would like to try the male lion roar should the Russian Boar be brave enough to show their heads in daylight. The roar supposedly can be heard 5 miles (~8km) away. That is like Rolling Stones concert loud. Perhaps it would be loud enough to mask a .30 caliber rifle (it is legal to kill them year round, by any method, day or night - they have no predators and cause billions of $ in crop loss per year including losses on my family property.
When looking at spec's for speakers, amplifiers and source files, I wonder what would make the 20kHz++ be present for lower urban/suburban environments. For the rural property it wold probably take an impressive array of drivers (use a cistern to reverberate bass?) and more amp than I have plans to build. Might require a chip amp of some type, only a guess.
Just trying to have fun with the topic.
I'm not going to escalate the neighbor problems. We really don't have an issue other than the dogs which he is aware of but may not be so aware that it ruins my afternoons on the porch or hammock reading in peace.
He is renting the house, the house was on the market when I was out of town and it was bought and rented all in that time. Coming up on two years. He's not a bad neighbor at all, could be much worse! Especially with him not owning the property. I don't want him to get in trouble with his suspicious hobbies (nothing that is causing harm to any person).
The weather has basically sucked since I posted this with the exception of a couple of days where I was probably inside building mouser orders. I've seen him a couple of times but have been rushed without time to talk to him. Good neighbor, don't want a future rental tenant that is random luck or lack of luck. The owners don't seem to have a problem with 4 dogs in an urban / suburban relatively small house so yes, I could easily end up with bad neighbors since I don't have the money to buy the hose and control who lives there.
I'll talk to him about it, and I am sure he would understand. But then as part of the training there may need to be negative reinforcement. I don't care what most say about positive reinforcement only, from my experience there needs to positive reinforcement for the most part but domination as a form of negative reinforcement. Nothing that harms the animal. When I say dominate, I think of how I have sat on a dog to keep it from moving. Since there is a fence, I can't do that, (plus there are four of them, which could put me in harm's way) so I think of audio to create fear. (This is an audio forum) Just as it is in nature. The roar of the dominant male lion, gorilla, etc...
Male lion was the first thing I thought of but it didn't seem to work. Crocodile, elephant and ultimately the male dominant gorilla in order of increasing effectiveness. There may be some fictional dragon or monster noise but enough life has evolved on earth that I should be able to find something that would create a primordial wish to survive response.
I do have some property in East Texas that I would like to try the male lion roar should the Russian Boar be brave enough to show their heads in daylight. The roar supposedly can be heard 5 miles (~8km) away. That is like Rolling Stones concert loud. Perhaps it would be loud enough to mask a .30 caliber rifle (it is legal to kill them year round, by any method, day or night - they have no predators and cause billions of $ in crop loss per year including losses on my family property.
When looking at spec's for speakers, amplifiers and source files, I wonder what would make the 20kHz++ be present for lower urban/suburban environments. For the rural property it wold probably take an impressive array of drivers (use a cistern to reverberate bass?) and more amp than I have plans to build. Might require a chip amp of some type, only a guess.
Just trying to have fun with the topic.
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