Hello,
Does anybody know if there's a place I could send my stuff for getting the cryogenically treated? In many places tubes are being sold non-treated any cryo-treated so I assume there must be a place where such paid service is offered.
Thanks for your tips or comments on this topic.
Br,
Vencel
Does anybody know if there's a place I could send my stuff for getting the cryogenically treated? In many places tubes are being sold non-treated any cryo-treated so I assume there must be a place where such paid service is offered.
Thanks for your tips or comments on this topic.
Br,
Vencel
Cooltech performs cryogenic treatments in Austria. According to their website, they also accept audio cables and vacuum tubes.
> Cooltech performs cryogenic treatments in Austria
Google brings up WAY too many links to belly fat which can be frozen and taken off.
This is the shop/guy you mean? Very pretty location.
www.cooltech.at
Deep cryogenic treatment of music instruments, audio cables...
Google brings up WAY too many links to belly fat which can be frozen and taken off.
This is the shop/guy you mean? Very pretty location.
www.cooltech.at
Deep cryogenic treatment of music instruments, audio cables...
Snake oil for one and serious stuff for the other. This hobby is about personal tastes, beliefs and psycho-acoustics. If someone feels or hear any difference after any kind of treatment and it makes that person happy, then how come we judge that person?! If I don't try, I will never know.
Theory behind cryogenic treatment is based on evidences, they also do such treatment on tools made from metal. It might happen that it will not have any effect, but rather than reading other's opinions I would like to experience it myself 🙂
Theory behind cryogenic treatment is based on evidences, they also do such treatment on tools made from metal. It might happen that it will not have any effect, but rather than reading other's opinions I would like to experience it myself 🙂
Don't worry, I also have free space in my freezer, but the temperature in mine doesn't go down to sub -190C. Does yours go down?
Also my freezer cannot cool anything down with the same speed as cryogenic treatment does.
What do I want to achieve? Simple... to experience myself if it has any effect on the sound or not.
Have you tried it already? I would love to hear about your experience rather than sarcastic comments.
Thanks a lot! This is what I am looking for 🙂 Do you perhaps know how much do they ask for such treatment?
If you are looking for ideas to share your money I suggest installing massive golden water taps. Greatly improves the taste of water 😛
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Thanks for your constructive advice! I assume you've tried it. I don't want to go off-topic, but I think all of us would love to hear your opinion on how the taste of water changed after you installed those golden taps.
I don't know, but what I could read about this states that cryogenic treatment helps the crystals in any metal to find their correct place in the structure.
Cryo treated tooling is claimed to have longer life and better durability.
Basically if I would leave a piece of wire resting for around 40 years it's crystal structure would change,m they would settle. I think that is the reason why so many people find the old cables sound nicer than newly made ones.
Kondo-San was also claiming that he used some process to speed up the ageing process of his cables. I think none of us can say that Kondo was using any kind of snake-oil in their amplifiers.
Cryo treated tooling is claimed to have longer life and better durability.
Basically if I would leave a piece of wire resting for around 40 years it's crystal structure would change,m they would settle. I think that is the reason why so many people find the old cables sound nicer than newly made ones.
Kondo-San was also claiming that he used some process to speed up the ageing process of his cables. I think none of us can say that Kondo was using any kind of snake-oil in their amplifiers.
Let me highlight that I am not a cryo-treatment believer, I would just like to try if it doesn't cost a fortune. Rather then spending my money on cigarettes or snacks, I'd rather spend it on trying this. Then I will see if it changes anything or not.
I would say, a pretty expensive type of snake oil! Oh, my my, how can a thread like this not be locked immediately?
I wish I had so much free time to comment on topics I am not interested in.
If I find one topic not interesting or I don't agree with it then I should ask immediately to get it closed/banned?
If I find one topic not interesting or I don't agree with it then I should ask immediately to get it closed/banned?
It can lower resistance, I would be concerned about trying it on valves at random since lowering the resistance may have detrimental consequences.
Thanks, this is a useful comment. I was thinking about tubes as there are some online tube shops who sell untreated and cry-treated tubes of the same type.
How much such treatment could help the tube when it will be heated up to high temperatures when used, I don't know.
How much such treatment could help the tube when it will be heated up to high temperatures when used, I don't know.
Cryo treatment changes the crystal state of iron. This is the only case I am aware of. Any other claims are trying to extract money on a false premise. Great for iron block race engines.