Daphile - Audiophile Music Server & Player OS

A mate of mine struggled endlessly with secure boot and Daphile on a USB. The disadvantage of going down the line cd route of course is that once installed unless you are competent to do partition resizing and dual booting they you've lost your windows install

Having said all that I've never come across a piece of hardware that Linux wouldn't run on so personally I would have no concerns about buying a pc and worrying daphile won't work

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I tried to install Daphile on a Lenovo thinkpad 420 laptop but I can't boot from the usb drive with Daphile. I have tried 3 different image writer program but still doesn't work. There seems to be a problem with Secured Boot function in the bios althought I have disable it. some people reported general difficulties installing linux on these thinkpads. the best result I got is a boot menu with usb drive is one of the option but nothing happen when I select it.

anyone has thought on this?

I also plan to buy an asus x205ta netbook to use with Daphile but I want to make sure that it works before I actually buy it. anyone experience with Asus laptop and Daphile?

Maybe this may provide an answer: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkP...s-will-not-boot-to-USB-jump-drive/td-p/698397
 
both...
http://www.daphile.com/download/Instructions.pdf

2. Create boot media
a) Preferred: Install to USB Flash-drive using Unetbootin (available for Windows,
Linux and OS X at UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads). This way you can use
Daphile from a USB drive without installing it to a hard drive.
or
b) Burn the ISO-file to a CD/DVD

Creating a bootable USB-drive via Windows is always a challenge.

If you have the possiblity to setup a linux environment you can create bootable media very easy: just use the "dd" command. Be sure to unmount all partitions first

(use the commands "lsblk" and "df" in order to see if your USB-drive is mounted and then "umount /dev/sd<driveletter><partitionnr.>"; do this for all partitions of the USB-drive)

Write an image file onto the USB-drive with "dd";

example to write onto drive "c": dd if=/path/to/image-file of=/dev/sdc bs=1M

(as you can see no partition number because you write the image to the whole USB-drive)

I use this a lot (also for Raspberry Pi bootable SD-cards)
 
Thanks all. I gave up with the laptop and got an Intel NUC. This one has the benefit of having optical output. Daphile now is working but I have some issues as follows

1. I can't save setting when it runs on usb. i had to install on the internal hard drive but is there anyway to install Windows on the same hard drive?
2. not enough bandwidth for 192khz streaming from NAS via wifi. I suspect my airport express is not sufficient. I don't like using wired lan as there could be some interference from other equipment through the switch. I will try to upgrade the wifi router to something faster.
3. How to activate the equalizer plugin? I need to adjust for room resonance!

cheers
 
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Thanks all. I gave up with the laptop and got an Intel NUC. This one has the benefit of having optical output. Daphile now is working but I have some issues as follows

1. I can't save setting when it runs on usb. i had to install on the internal hard drive but is there anyway to install Windows on the same hard drive?
2. not enough bandwidth for 192khz streaming from NAS via wifi. I suspect my airport express is not sufficient. I don't like using wired lan as there could be some interference from other equipment through the switch. I will try to upgrade the wifi router to something faster.
3. How to activate the equalizer plugin? I need to adjust for room resonance!

cheers

regarding 1: I assume you installed Daphile from the image onto the USB-memory stick and booted from that. In that case it acts as a CD-drive, so you can't save your settings. What you could do is to use a second USB-stick and install Daphile on that one (as you did with the internal harddrive). I did this myself with a 8GB USB-stick and this works fine on my PC.

regarding 2: I don't use WiFi myself but I can imagine that the bandwidth may be too low or you need to use another channel (I don't know if you live in an area with lots of Access Points). Or, if possible, go to the 5Ghz band.

regarding 3: don't know. But by using a software equalizer you may lower the overall quality of the playback. I don't know your setup, but it would be better to find solutions to change external factors instead.
 
1) The 2 USB trick works very well.
Also there are instructions on the ReadMe for doing it all with a single stick and 2 ext4 partitions which is more elegant but a bit more complex. Be absolutely sure you know which drive is which before installation. In the past I've disconnected drives I'm paranoid about overwriting

2) I disagree with your concerns regards wired versus wireless. There should be no more or less interference at the router in packet switched data over wired connections than wireless. That is not how the protocols work. However, wireless by its very nature is subject to signal strength variations and interference from all sorts of stuff in the home (microwave ovens and DECT phones are particularly bad) that lead to error corrections that are manifest as dropouts and apparently reduced bandwidth. IMHO wired wins every time

3) I don't use the equaliser in Daphile although I do have room EQ elsewhere in the chain so can't comment

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thank you MSHAVS and chumtoad.

I guess I can only install to another USB if I boot from the original installation iso. I have installed once into the internal ssd but it seem that I can't install one more time to another usb if I boot from the SSD installed version?

I also have the DEQ2496 for room equalizer but it can't handle DSD or signal with sampling rate more than 96khz.

I think you may be right about wire vs wireless. However after I replaced the wifi router I can stream 192khz file smoothly now.
 
One strange thing is that when a daphile boot drive is connected I can't access bios setup. normal bios setup is accessed by pressing F2 on an attached keyboard. I am trying to reduce fan speed of the computer inside the bios setup.

as I have installed daphile into the internal ssd it's very troublesome to take the ssd out :-(
 
Are you sure an attached drive influences the bios which gets started before even any drive detection occurs? I think the problem will be somewhere else. Is your keyboard connected properly?
I think the cause might be here i.e. Fast boot enabled?
Cannot Access BIOS Setup with F2 Key

But I am still not sure how to deal with it. There is a hint that in fast boot mode keyboard is not enable until the OS boot but without keyboard how can one access to bios to change the fast boot setting. It is confusing, Intel.
 

I tried but it did not work. Now I thinh the TV I connected the NUC is not compatible with the resolution of the bios screen output. The only time I was able to access the bios when I first set it up was when I connect it to the computer screen at work.

when connecting to the TV, boot screen does not show up at all until the NUC tries to boot from network. Only then the error message discplay on the tv i.e check cable!

Very inconvenient product by intel :-( This one is supposed to be used with a TV, isn't it.
 
1) The 2 USB trick works very well.
Also there are instructions on the ReadMe for doing it all with a single stick and 2 ext4 partitions which is more elegant but a bit more complex. Be absolutely sure you know which drive is which before installation. In the past I've disconnected drives I'm paranoid about overwriting

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I need to bother you guys again. I can't install from one usb to another one. in the drop down menu only the internal ssd drive is available for selection. both usbs show up in the list but cannot be selected. I have tried with a blank usb and one with daphile iso image. both ways doesn't work. the second usb is of the same type with the boot usb but smaller capacity. they are both recognized by Daphile but just cannot be selected for installation.
 
I need to bother you guys again. I can't install from one usb to another one. in the drop down menu only the internal ssd drive is available for selection. both usbs show up in the list but cannot be selected. I have tried with a blank usb and one with daphile iso image. both ways doesn't work. the second usb is of the same type with the boot usb but smaller capacity. they are both recognized by Daphile but just cannot be selected for installation.

This is written in Daphile's doc:
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Daphile installation to an other drive is possible via the web interface in the “Settings
> System Firmware” section. Currently the installation is supported only to:
a) an empty disk of at least 2GB without existing partitions (preferred), or
b) disk containing DaphileBoot and DaphileData labeled file systems.
In case a) the boot loader is installed to Master Boot Record (MBR). The case b) can
be used for an existing installation as an update or recovery option. The multiboot
installation is not supported by Daphile but it could be possible if you create the
required two partitions with ext4 Linux file systems and label them as DaphileBoot
and DaphileData. In this case b) the boot loader is installed on the DaphileBoot
partition and you should take care it is bootable somehow.
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I would advise you to reformat the stick in Windows (unselect quick format), or create 2 partitions on the stick in another Linux environment (e.g. with gparted) and format as Ext4 filesystems.
 
This is written in Daphile's doc:
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Daphile installation to an other drive is possible via the web interface in the “Settings
> System Firmware” section. Currently the installation is supported only to:
a) an empty disk of at least 2GB without existing partitions (preferred), or
b) disk containing DaphileBoot and DaphileData labeled file systems.
In case a) the boot loader is installed to Master Boot Record (MBR). The case b) can
be used for an existing installation as an update or recovery option. The multiboot
installation is not supported by Daphile but it could be possible if you create the
required two partitions with ext4 Linux file systems and label them as DaphileBoot
and DaphileData. In this case b) the boot loader is installed on the DaphileBoot
partition and you should take care it is bootable somehow.
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I would advise you to reformat the stick in Windows (unselect quick format), or create 2 partitions on the stick in another Linux environment (e.g. with gparted) and format as Ext4 filesystems.

The usb stick is brand new but I will try to reformat it in windows anyway. I don't have a linux environment :-(
 
the status is still the same after i reformatted the usb. if I burn iso image from a windows pc this usb stick boots intodaphile flawlessly. Daphile also recognises the reformatted usb when I boot from another usb it just does not allow me to select this usb for installation (the usb is greyed out but it's there in the drop down list)
 
the status is still the same after i reformatted the usb. if I burn iso image from a windows pc this usb stick boots intodaphile flawlessly. Daphile also recognises the reformatted usb when I boot from another usb it just does not allow me to select this usb for installation (the usb is greyed out but it's there in the drop down list)

I checked myself (it's a while for me that I installed Daphile myself) and indeed a (full) format does not work. You need to clear the stick in such a way that it cannot be mounted.

This is an easy task in linux*, but for Windows I'm not sure. I assume you can use e.g. PC Disk Eraser (PCDiskEraser, Completely*erase all the data stored in disks or partitions.) for this.

*: if you use a Beta-version of Daphile you can use that as your linux platform. If you need more information about this let me know.