Personally I blame their mid horn, it produces some of the worst mids I have ever heard, all 'mushy' and distorted.
Oddly enough one you got over 30deg off axis the sound cleaned up remarkably.
Perfect for your warehouse-turned-studio-billionaire-hangout-with-questionable-legal-standing! I'll take 10.
I would build some kind of slim linesources hugging the wall. Will nicely fill that huge room and hopefully avoid some echoing from these tall ceilings. 🙂
JBL doesn't have much these days, but once they used to be great. The C211 is probably their the last "normal" speaker. However, even it has a 15" paper cone driver crossing off to a 1 inch horn near 2kHz.
I'd be interested in the jbl am7212/00........................
seems to have a crossover point too high for a 12" though.................
Curious about the diff-drive thing also.
seems to have a crossover point too high for a 12" though.................
Curious about the diff-drive thing also.
I've actually been looking at cloning a Beolab 18
Line arrays are an interesting alternative to prosound speakers, because it's fairly trivial to increase the power handling and efficiency. It basically just comes down to "how tall can you live with?" Obviously you reach a limit when the wavelengths are long, but that isn't really an issue for home speakers.
humm, that's phallic ! Not sure it is the best way to solve a WAF problem, lol ! Just missing two side to side woofer below the "arrays"... pffff.
Also mauvais goût as above : https://www.elipson.com/bell
I like it, but it is too much near of a coocking instruments for a waf problem but maybe socialy rewarding : the tribute
Inobustructive perhaps to the eyes, in the same on wall idea : https://heissmann-acoustics.de/en/wandlautsprecher/
Also angles of the big room can be used for angles false wall à la Bawslo he made at home !
you can try the "lustre" idea in the big eigth room : https://www.elipson.com/product-page/support-plafond-w35 or https://www.elipson.com/bell
Also mauvais goût as above : https://www.elipson.com/bell
I like it, but it is too much near of a coocking instruments for a waf problem but maybe socialy rewarding : the tribute
Inobustructive perhaps to the eyes, in the same on wall idea : https://heissmann-acoustics.de/en/wandlautsprecher/
Also angles of the big room can be used for angles false wall à la Bawslo he made at home !
you can try the "lustre" idea in the big eigth room : https://www.elipson.com/product-page/support-plafond-w35 or https://www.elipson.com/bell
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https://www.elipson.com/product-page/soundtree : that was the ugly one and not the "Bell" model (link problem)
Doh! I've seen that photo, but the one you posted with the Cosynes in it tricked me out; I was assuming you were talking about a different space.
With that reverberant a room, and no WAF/space budget for something big enough to be directional, why not go the other route and do an in-wall line array with small-ish drivers, or maybe a two-way with a line of ribbons & some 5" woofers?
Or if that's too invasive, Wesayso's line arrays look awfully nice... and the cabinets looked like they were soooo easy to make ;0)
The Baswlo speaker Bateman has are in the angles : making an angle wood frame is smoothing the angles to the eyes and is easy with acoustic fabric existing in many colors. With the difference of a Beolab a ring as a gift to the wife should close the subject... You can also play with decorative and not let going the frame till the ceilling and add ligthing that fire towards the ceilling, etc ! Philips have ambiance ligth spot with warm tones, vivid, several colors, etc ! Dry Ikebanas in the angles are cool too
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In all sincerity there are many solutions to the problem here, but ultimately its a matter of budget. There is an endless sea off the shelf options with compromised resonant cabinets and cheap drivers that use over-corrected FR to make it work somehow. Let's face it, PA is a completely different animal in requirements than hifi and SQ is of much lesser importance to most manufacturers. IMO there is no such thing as an affordable passive 2 way PA speaker capable of satisfying an audiophile taste. Anything JBL will be overpriced and overhyped. You're paying for the name.
The only exception I've found that remotely could work is the Martin X12. It has no electrolytic caps in the crossover and even has PP in the signal path. Decent Celestion drivers and no protection circuit crap to ruin sound. I'll post some internal shots when I get a chance.
The only exception I've found that remotely could work is the Martin X12. It has no electrolytic caps in the crossover and even has PP in the signal path. Decent Celestion drivers and no protection circuit crap to ruin sound. I'll post some internal shots when I get a chance.
Best sounding speaker in this flyover market I've heard is Peavey SP2 (2004). I test with grand piano, Beethoven Appassionata, and ZZ Top Afterburner. Closest to a Steinway grand I've heard. I run 1/8 to 50 w in my living room. Incandescent limiter on tweeter will never warm up at that power with the speaker rated 500 w. I paid $400 the pair +$80 to drive 220 miles RT to get them.
Per the O.P. wife requirements, SP2 look like they should have a neon beer sign between them, and a dirty wood stage in front. Maybe a wire mesh in front of the stage to stop the thrown beer bottles.
Modern SP2 trashed the H.D. chart & wide dispersion to run the AES watts up from 500 to 1000. Not recommended for classical repro. Drivers are the same.