I’m currently working on a new build using a CSS BMR for HF duties from
300Hz up and a sealed Dayton RS270P-8A 10” paper reference woofer for LF. They’ll be powered by either ICEPower dual mono amps or some NC400 dual mono amps or Hypex plate amps (I’m aware the plate amps have DSP built in). Preamp will be handled by the new Emotiva XMC-2 (as this is also my homeboy theater)
I’m curious if anyone has experience comparing Hypex’ DLCP with MiniDSP for multi-way active duties.
My main goals will be:
1. Smoothing out the HF response in a moderately lively room
2. Adjusting phase between the drivers
3. Boosting the low end of the Dayton’s a bit to ensure a smooth low-end response (I like my bass)
4. Reducing response at a few key resonant frequencies in the room
In your experiences how did either of these do? Was one a winner for clarity, or bass extension or transients? Any data on usage is welcome.
Thanks all!
300Hz up and a sealed Dayton RS270P-8A 10” paper reference woofer for LF. They’ll be powered by either ICEPower dual mono amps or some NC400 dual mono amps or Hypex plate amps (I’m aware the plate amps have DSP built in). Preamp will be handled by the new Emotiva XMC-2 (as this is also my homeboy theater)
I’m curious if anyone has experience comparing Hypex’ DLCP with MiniDSP for multi-way active duties.
My main goals will be:
1. Smoothing out the HF response in a moderately lively room
2. Adjusting phase between the drivers
3. Boosting the low end of the Dayton’s a bit to ensure a smooth low-end response (I like my bass)
4. Reducing response at a few key resonant frequencies in the room
In your experiences how did either of these do? Was one a winner for clarity, or bass extension or transients? Any data on usage is welcome.
Thanks all!
First of all, I think you should ask a mod to put this thread into the Digital Line Level topic. This is clearly not a Class-D theme.
To answer the question: with both DLCP and MiniDSP you can do the things you describe. But depending on the MiniDSP model (there are many), you can even choose Dirac room correction, which is not the case with DLCP.
By the way, Hypex plate amps are fine, their DSP is almost as high quality (if not the same) as the DLCP.
To answer the question: with both DLCP and MiniDSP you can do the things you describe. But depending on the MiniDSP model (there are many), you can even choose Dirac room correction, which is not the case with DLCP.
By the way, Hypex plate amps are fine, their DSP is almost as high quality (if not the same) as the DLCP.
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Thanks - I’d seen other threads about DLCP/MiniDSP in here and not as much in the other forum. If it belongs in digital line level then yes, would appreciate the mods moving it 🙂
I have used Minidsp 4x10HD, 2x4HD and Hypex FA123 which has the dsp-xo using HFD software which has same functionality as DLCP.
I can't hear anything "signature" sound in either and they are practically transparent regarding listening experience. The user must have reasonable skill to avoid gross mistakes like missing phase align, absurd gain structure etc.
The UI of minisp is much easier and there is much more info available. Minidsp 2x4HD (and same gen.) can do FIR tricks eg. rePhase, if you like that.
I can't hear anything "signature" sound in either and they are practically transparent regarding listening experience. The user must have reasonable skill to avoid gross mistakes like missing phase align, absurd gain structure etc.
The UI of minisp is much easier and there is much more info available. Minidsp 2x4HD (and same gen.) can do FIR tricks eg. rePhase, if you like that.
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The dlcp is a nice platform, and you can even have a display and it can work as a stand alone piece of equipment. With ucd or nCore amps clipping in.
But the fusions can be built into cabs.
I found the minidsp’s all had noise which I haven’t found on hypex, but there was always a range of amps and cables and cheap power supplies bolted on.
Mini dsp interface wins hands down though.
But the fusions can be built into cabs.
I found the minidsp’s all had noise which I haven’t found on hypex, but there was always a range of amps and cables and cheap power supplies bolted on.
Mini dsp interface wins hands down though.
But you could buy some ADAU1452/66 boards from Aliexpress for less than $50. Some DIY work needed (this is diyaudio forum after all).
MiniDSP is phasing out their consumer products so it is not a very long term alternative.
Wait, what? When did this get announced?
But you could buy some ADAU1452/66 boards from Aliexpress for less than $50. Some DIY work needed (this is diyaudio forum after all).
Hadn’t seen the aforementioned one on AliExpress before actually. My plan with the DLCP would have bee to build one in the ghent audio chassis.
I thought they were phasing out their raw boards, but would continue to sell their systems in boxes. In other words, they'd stop selling the 2x8 board or module or whatever you call it, but would continue to offer the 4x10HD? At least that's how I understood it.MiniDSP is phasing out their consumer products so it is not a very long term alternative.
That was my opinion too, less diy stuff, more pre-made products...
The Ghent case looks great. I got mine from Magic521, a few hundred quid, but nicely made and big enough to out some amps in too.
The Ghent case looks great. I got mine from Magic521, a few hundred quid, but nicely made and big enough to out some amps in too.
For those considering the Hypex DLCP, end of life appears to be 1/1/2020 as noted on the diyclassd.com website - there is a package deal available as noted here:
DIYclassd.com
I am considering another Hypex DLCP (for a second set of LXMini speakers or use with an LX521.4 system). I finally assembled the DCLP system I purchased earlier after finding the GhentAudio chassis as noted here: ghentaudio --- DLCP-Pro DIY Case-Kit for Hypex DLCP Platform
This is a really nice kit - everything (all of the HYPEX components) fits well, it assembles as noted on their webpage, it is packaged nicely (related parts are packaged together). There are some nice features not illustrated on the website - the front panel attaches with hidden rails using set screws; the front power-on led is dimmable with the included three position switch. This kit is well designed for the HYPEX DLCP and well manufactured.
I am currently using a MiniDSP 2x4 HD with an LXmini - the advantage being the configuration file for the LXmini can be downloaded. The MiniDSP user interface is pretty straight forward.
For the Hypex DLCP, there is a bit of a learning curve using the Hypex filter software for configuration - but this is DIY. Learning a bit about how DSPs are set up along the way.
My goal is to match the Linkwitz LXmini cross over configuration with the DLCP. It does appear the DLCP has more options for expansion such as adding a second unit for an LX521.
Bottom line - GhentAudio case is really nice; HYPEX DLCP availability looks to be limited.
Regards,
MN
DIYclassd.com
I am considering another Hypex DLCP (for a second set of LXMini speakers or use with an LX521.4 system). I finally assembled the DCLP system I purchased earlier after finding the GhentAudio chassis as noted here: ghentaudio --- DLCP-Pro DIY Case-Kit for Hypex DLCP Platform
This is a really nice kit - everything (all of the HYPEX components) fits well, it assembles as noted on their webpage, it is packaged nicely (related parts are packaged together). There are some nice features not illustrated on the website - the front panel attaches with hidden rails using set screws; the front power-on led is dimmable with the included three position switch. This kit is well designed for the HYPEX DLCP and well manufactured.
I am currently using a MiniDSP 2x4 HD with an LXmini - the advantage being the configuration file for the LXmini can be downloaded. The MiniDSP user interface is pretty straight forward.
For the Hypex DLCP, there is a bit of a learning curve using the Hypex filter software for configuration - but this is DIY. Learning a bit about how DSPs are set up along the way.
My goal is to match the Linkwitz LXmini cross over configuration with the DLCP. It does appear the DLCP has more options for expansion such as adding a second unit for an LX521.
Bottom line - GhentAudio case is really nice; HYPEX DLCP availability looks to be limited.
Regards,
MN
I own a Lx mini system using minidsp 2x4hd, can you comment the difference in audio quality between the minidsp 2x4hd and DLCP, especially the dacs?
DLCP firmware and manuals
We keep the DLCP in stock as we found no real competitor for this smartly designed DSP unit.
Manual, datasheet, firmware, control firmware etc. may be downloaded here (scrolling down):
http://www.magiclx521.com/DLCP
Cheers, Frank
We keep the DLCP in stock as we found no real competitor for this smartly designed DSP unit.
Manual, datasheet, firmware, control firmware etc. may be downloaded here (scrolling down):
http://www.magiclx521.com/DLCP
Cheers, Frank
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