Out off curiosity: Does anyone know which drivers were used in the JBL Control1? Are the custom-made or what?
Whats the general impression of these speakers?
Regards TroelsM
Whats the general impression of these speakers?
Regards TroelsM
They are custom drivers.
They are nice little monitors. Here in the UK they can be found cheaply if you know where to look and for the price the performance is decent enough. They need a sub though.
There are quite a few varients around.
They are nice little monitors. Here in the UK they can be found cheaply if you know where to look and for the price the performance is decent enough. They need a sub though.
There are quite a few varients around.
Hi,
general impression of the C1 in hifi terms : (I was forced to listen to
them at length at Richersounds by a friend who was interested in
them, for reasons I found unfathomable. Turns out later he got
his hearing tested and he suffers from serious treble hearing loss)
The above should be a clue : no bass, relentless crude treble,
overall a very rising thin response - possibly suit a ceiling corner.
Could be Eq'd to sound half pleasant.
Though with no bass and the rising response they do go louder
than you would expect and can take some juice in the process.
Depends what you want to use them for.
🙂/sreten.
general impression of the C1 in hifi terms : (I was forced to listen to
them at length at Richersounds by a friend who was interested in
them, for reasons I found unfathomable. Turns out later he got
his hearing tested and he suffers from serious treble hearing loss)
The above should be a clue : no bass, relentless crude treble,
overall a very rising thin response - possibly suit a ceiling corner.
Could be Eq'd to sound half pleasant.
Though with no bass and the rising response they do go louder
than you would expect and can take some juice in the process.
Depends what you want to use them for.
🙂/sreten.
Certainly not what you'd call hifi but also pretty much indestructable in my experience. 😉 Very useful tiny party speakers when mated with huge subs.
control 1's....
well Fostex/Foster had a similar full range setup (was it an FE83 or similar?). B&W also had their Leisure Monitors if I remember.
No experience with any ogf them (other than hearinmg them very casually a long, long time ago), but, based on what I have known about JBL in the past (late 1980's), the LMs and the little Fosters should kick their butt all over.
In defense of the JBL s though, they should be absolutely tough as nails.. Reboxing or rebuilding some Realistic/Optimus 77s or similar should with better drivers mau be a solution.
well Fostex/Foster had a similar full range setup (was it an FE83 or similar?). B&W also had their Leisure Monitors if I remember.
No experience with any ogf them (other than hearinmg them very casually a long, long time ago), but, based on what I have known about JBL in the past (late 1980's), the LMs and the little Fosters should kick their butt all over.
In defense of the JBL s though, they should be absolutely tough as nails.. Reboxing or rebuilding some Realistic/Optimus 77s or similar should with better drivers mau be a solution.
Bear in mind that the Control series aren't really meant for hi-fi applications.
They're great as personal stage monitors for keyboard players for example, or for small room sound reinforcement or cueing monitors, but there are many better designs for music reproduction.
They're great as personal stage monitors for keyboard players for example, or for small room sound reinforcement or cueing monitors, but there are many better designs for music reproduction.
I have used the Control 1 a LOT in theater sound, often 2 dozen or more at a time. They were choosen for the small size, rugged build and coloration of the sound.
For that, they worked very well. Also for a solo monitor at the mixing console.
A buddy had a pair of Control 1 mounted on brakets in the corner between wall and ceiling. Gave them some bass. Not Hi-FI, but fun.
For that, they worked very well. Also for a solo monitor at the mixing console.
A buddy had a pair of Control 1 mounted on brakets in the corner between wall and ceiling. Gave them some bass. Not Hi-FI, but fun.
Hi.
From what i can hear they are build to be loud and tough. That fine! I´m still interested. I have a nice setup for the "HiFi"-part, but one is always looking for new fun party speakers (or is that only me?)
It seems to me that the "woofer" would be the biggest challenge. Any ideas on a (cheap) woofer that could be used in a Control1-clone (cloning seems to big the shizzle..).
Regards TroelsM
From what i can hear they are build to be loud and tough. That fine! I´m still interested. I have a nice setup for the "HiFi"-part, but one is always looking for new fun party speakers (or is that only me?)
It seems to me that the "woofer" would be the biggest challenge. Any ideas on a (cheap) woofer that could be used in a Control1-clone (cloning seems to big the shizzle..).
Regards TroelsM
If you want some fun party speakers, I would just buy some cheap used floorstanders. The Control 1 don't do parties without a sub. Unless you like rubbish sound.
Hi,
far cheaper to buy a clone than make one :
http://www.dv247.com/invt/23854/
edit :
FWIW my brother has a pair and they are far less offensive than the
C1, but then again he wasn't running them at maximum volume levels.
Took them apart, you'd be hard pushed to buy all the bits for £33.
🙂/sreten.
far cheaper to buy a clone than make one :
http://www.dv247.com/invt/23854/
edit :
FWIW my brother has a pair and they are far less offensive than the
C1, but then again he wasn't running them at maximum volume levels.
Took them apart, you'd be hard pushed to buy all the bits for £33.
🙂/sreten.
I found rather complete measurements here:
JBL CONTROL1-PRO
From that alone, I'd say you are much better off with Athena Technologies. Sadly Athena Tech is gone, but I have measured the WS-15. Has an f3 of around 110-120Hz, but otherwise an outstanding midrange and treble response. Tweeter is a soft dome, and crossover is 2nd order.
Frequency response was optimal for me, with a bit of a bump on the bass, and gently descending (2-3 db) from 800 to 20kHz or so I recall. Matched my diy reference monitors well enough for center and surround duties. Probably won't play very loud and have no built in circuit protection.
Best,
Erik
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