No, you don't know and don't recognize. You believe you know and believe you recognize. You need a double-blind ABX test to prove you are knowing and recognizing.
But,
😉
I believed you will recognize the mocking, but I was wrong...
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Well no.
You'll not drag me into the usual sterile controversy, but just for the record: who are you to deride anyone?
You will have to make a reason for it.
FWIW, who are YOU?
Who gave your opinion any special range above others?
Funny thing the pot calling the kettle black 😉
Oh great. Now it's devolved into ego battles.
This topic always seems to challenge the civility among participants in this forum.
This topic always seems to challenge the civility among participants in this forum.
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I've done various types of those "blind tests" on several people over the years.
Both at home here with neighbors/friends, and in the shop's audio showroom with walk-in customers.
And I realize that people have different hearing abilities.
And so my findings from all that are..... people have specific beliefs, preferences, which they maintain, regardless of whether something is better or worse than something else.
Even fooling them with the same product or situation in an "A/B test" can result in the person choosing one over another.
Both at home here with neighbors/friends, and in the shop's audio showroom with walk-in customers.
And I realize that people have different hearing abilities.
And so my findings from all that are..... people have specific beliefs, preferences, which they maintain, regardless of whether something is better or worse than something else.
Even fooling them with the same product or situation in an "A/B test" can result in the person choosing one over another.
It's a "wire" thread.... like all the other rediculous ones that annoy me.
If you take a teaspoon of water out of a swimming pool you change the level of the water, but it won't affect my swimming and it can't be measured.
These are changes of that order of magnitude. Utterly dwarfed by design choices and the behaviour of other parts of the chain of devices used to reproduce music. Let alone decisions made in the studio....
These are changes of that order of magnitude. Utterly dwarfed by design choices and the behaviour of other parts of the chain of devices used to reproduce music. Let alone decisions made in the studio....
Thank you: there is no need to shout, please.
Your words, not mine.
This is my opinion.
Google Translate translated "mocking" as "derisive".
This is not an opinion, this is derision.
WOT leaves... clicking the "unwatch" button for this thread.
Just to be clear, I don't expect you all agree with me and I take for granted that you all are intellectually and peacefully honest, but since we don't even know each other then if I read that someone has derided me or anyone else for his opinions then I don't accept that at all.
Just for your information, to read and write on the Forum I use Google Translate.
Google translate is correct on this one.
You gave your beliefs on the audio subject, and I gave mine on the subject of believing (which belief is the true/correct one: yours or mine? 😉 ).
But you gave your beliefs on the subject which is pure science (audio) - so here you are on the wrong forum, please go to religious forums where you can freely preach your beliefs. Not here.
Well guys my ears arnt gold their berrillium. Yep thats right and i can hear the difference between copper leads and steal. If you cant hear the difference then relax and use steel lead parts. You could make your own exclusive steel wire interconnects might be a tad stiff though.
I won't say they sound ugly BUT they do have a signature that is inherent. The old MC225 is a great example. If you change
the type of capacitor through the signal path it will NEVER have that 225 sound again. I've turned down repair jobs because
a repairman has ruined the sound of that amp. The caps seldom go bad and you replace with like made caps and resistors.
Resistors contribute more to sound vs caps that block, remove or filter. PIO caps suck for longevity, BUT there are
some good PIO/hybrids that are very easy to listen to. They don't sound like the same amp when mag caps are swapped out.
The MC240 is a bumblebee nightmare BUT the one of the best sounding amp on gods green earth IF it's gets an upgrade. I keep a few around for serious LP Rock and Roll / Early Country nuts..
I listen to an untouched MC225 and MX110z as a reference system. I've used the same one for over 35 years. If it wasn't
30 degrees in my garage I'd be listening to it right now. I'll just have to settle.
At least in our hobby nobody dies, unlike history's conflicts driven by the 'My god is bigger than your god' beliefs...
This is very rude and considering that it is the first time we talk to each other it is even incredible that you show so excessive and unjustified resentment.
It breaks the rules of good education and also those of the Forum, but you know: a man presents himself with his ways.
Please make a deep breath and calm down: here we are only comparing our opinions not making a Holy War.
Not quite, since yet on this Forum I see that you pretend not to read that some great designer by designing a DIY device (a DAC, just as an example) then the designers first create their ideas from their knowledge and then they build the devices and then they take in account both the opinions and the feedback of those who participate to the project building their own DIY devices.
During their creations do you ever noticed the way they refine their projects? Through the listening!
So, why don't you go to those threads to say that they all are on the wrong Forum?
Why don't you deride also them and their efforts?
I admire them instead.
This is commented on by itself.
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Here's a nifty little tool for those that drop screws into chassis...... AND...... AND!......get this!...........
It's got that tiny little MAGNET so that those worried and obsessed with non-copper wires can find/locate the evil wiring and rip it out so they can replace the non-copper wiring with oxygen-free pure copper.
I can just picture a guy poking around in his high-end amp with this..
Wife: "Honey, what are you doing in that amp"
Husband: "I'm checking for bad sub-standard wiring with this handy-dandy magnetic probe!"
Wife: "Oh, I see"
POW! (smoke-sparks)
Husband: "Oops!.... I slipped"
Hang in there, this storm willl pass... like so many before it. There are a handful of what I have come to call the "DBT Bullies" on this forum who are aggressively intolerant and, as you say, derisive toward anyone whose opinions and process differs from theirs. I wish moderators would step in to stop this when it gets this messy.
Considering that you participate in this forum via translator, I think you are doing admirably.
They're also great for sorting out which salvaged resistors to save and which to toss into the recycling bin.
