presume cost
hi all....
i was thinking how mutch money really Avalon can spend to builsd a pair of TESSERACT.
diamond tweeter 10.000
beryllium mid 3.000
8" midbass 1.000
12" wfs 2.000
wood 5.000
hours of work 8.000
pakacing 2.000
Total 31.000
am I so distant from "true"cost? 😕
cheers
hi all....
i was thinking how mutch money really Avalon can spend to builsd a pair of TESSERACT.
diamond tweeter 10.000
beryllium mid 3.000
8" midbass 1.000
12" wfs 2.000
wood 5.000
hours of work 8.000
pakacing 2.000
Total 31.000
am I so distant from "true"cost? 😕
cheers
FORGOT
majbe tweeters more 8.000 than 10.000 +
crossover components, internall wirings, details, etc. about , to say 4.000.
TOTAL = 33.000 🙄
cheers
majbe tweeters more 8.000 than 10.000 +
crossover components, internall wirings, details, etc. about , to say 4.000.
TOTAL = 33.000 🙄
cheers
May be Avalon is aiming for the aftermarket accessory market and will be offering a Speaker Burqa in the future.
Rogers once hired Peter Stevens (McLaren F1 designer) and came up with the DB101. Those were nice little speakers but overpriced at £400 a pair when first released. They dropped the price to £260 and shortly after went bust, at which point you could buy them for £100 at Richer Sounds which I did.
These days you wouldn't be able to buy a pair of the Audax aerogel midwoofs Rogers used for that money.
The "stealth'' features of the Avalons already started with the Ascent, a model which I audited at the introduction in the '80s.
At the time, one of very few dynamic loudspeakers able to rival electrostats in transparency.
That was years before the 1st stealth aircraft was officially revealed.
If so interested in such loudspeakers, go have a listen before passing a judgement.
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I don't understand bashing the price of commercial products. Every company has the right to ask what they think their product is worth.
Breaking the cost of a product into a sum of component cost is infantile and shows zero knowledge of product development or simply bad intent.
As a consumer you have a choice to make, nobody forces you to pay for Avalon's products or any products for that matter. If you want a pair similar to Avalon's and can't afford it then go the DIY route. I would be very surprised and happy to see you can build these speakers with 30K$ and that will be a true contribution to this community.
Breaking the cost of a product into a sum of component cost is infantile and shows zero knowledge of product development or simply bad intent.
As a consumer you have a choice to make, nobody forces you to pay for Avalon's products or any products for that matter. If you want a pair similar to Avalon's and can't afford it then go the DIY route. I would be very surprised and happy to see you can build these speakers with 30K$ and that will be a true contribution to this community.
The "cheaper" (how ironic for 12,000$ speakers) Avalon Ascendant are still one of the most impressive speakers I've heard to date, on DCS/Pass Labs electronics (while not the most expensive by far).
I'd certainly be curious to hear those, even if ugly or overpriced.
I'd certainly be curious to hear those, even if ugly or overpriced.
The don't look ugly to me - quite striking in fact.......just what you want in you multi million £ / $ homes listening room when your Oil Sheikh buddies come round to party.
If you read the words, they are active in the bass.
And what would the option be, take 300k to ATC....... I bet you'd get some MASSIVE family and friends size coffins.
I bet both reality and fantasy 'speakers would sound utterly awesome to the Right Ear..... Remember you sold the left one to pay for your speakers!
😀😀
If you read the words, they are active in the bass.
And what would the option be, take 300k to ATC....... I bet you'd get some MASSIVE family and friends size coffins.
I bet both reality and fantasy 'speakers would sound utterly awesome to the Right Ear..... Remember you sold the left one to pay for your speakers!
😀😀
At ATC you would get 10 pairs of SCM300A SL Pros at list price weighing a total of 2.8 tons.
In reality with an order that size you'd probably leave with 12-15 pairs.
That is not counting the cash you'd save on amps.
Compared to the Avalons the black ATC boxes are a thing of beauty.
You must have seen them many times back then, the rest of the world sure did not.
November 1988 => Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I only need to look outside the window to see +$300k cars drive by. My nextdoor neighbor loves his V8 Range Rover, real estate broker.
In 5 years from now, his automobile will have sunk over $150k in value.
The life span of a loudspeaker easily stretches a quarter of a century, and still has some resale value at the end. In some particular cases, even a quite decent one.
Single plausible reason to obsess over a very expensive loudspeaker, is that one wants it, but can't afford the tag.
(not that I crave for Tesseract cubes, they'd freak me out in the middle of the night, likely to terminate one by mistake within a couple of months)
As the wiki page you linked to says: First flight '81, introduced '83 while the US admitted their existence in '88.
But just like the SR71 everybody knew about them and had seen pictures years before they officially admitted that they have it.
Not sure how your neighbour manages to lose $150K in value on a car that costs $130k new.
I also disagree with your 'single plausible' reason. Personally I tend to laugh at most of the 'High End' audio prices as they bear absolutely no relation to the performance they deliver.
Especially since one can buy studio monitors which cost a reasonable and understandable 3x the cost of the parts rather than in excess of of 10x plus they tend to deliver a much better performance in the first place.
But just like the SR71 everybody knew about them and had seen pictures years before they officially admitted that they have it.
Not sure how your neighbour manages to lose $150K in value on a car that costs $130k new.
I also disagree with your 'single plausible' reason. Personally I tend to laugh at most of the 'High End' audio prices as they bear absolutely no relation to the performance they deliver.
Especially since one can buy studio monitors which cost a reasonable and understandable 3x the cost of the parts rather than in excess of of 10x plus they tend to deliver a much better performance in the first place.
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There's luxury tax on cars here, plus 21% VAT, cheapest V6 RR does ~$160k in these parts.
Somewhat similar story for loudspeakers, e.g. a $165K Magico Q7 pair is $1/4M at this end.
(somehow I doubt that a loudspeaker developer shapes a model after spotter hush-hush pics, in particular with profound sonic reasons present)
Somewhat similar story for loudspeakers, e.g. a $165K Magico Q7 pair is $1/4M at this end.
(somehow I doubt that a loudspeaker developer shapes a model after spotter hush-hush pics, in particular with profound sonic reasons present)
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I would not use the word burqa in that respect. Someone might
get wrong impression.
You were lucky to have purchased those rogers at priced asked.
Every now and then I remember the words speaker dave once said
about trying to make business out of this hobby and it was in the
sense of better to keep it as a hobby and not put yourself
in a position of loosing money in vain.
Come on, it's only DIYers having their fun. I've noticed every
single product has more or less inevitably some kind of defect
or deficiency. If those Avalon's were going for 3k bucks a pair,
I bet they would be the most beautiful and best speakers ever
made, don't you think?
Good, Bad, Beautiful, Grossly Ugly - Y'all still talking about it.
So if you take its Outside as a piece of art - Its done its job
So if you take its Outside as a piece of art - Its done its job
x-over supposed
hi all,
one time I have seen on a german magazine 2-3 measurement of avalon Eidolon and another more little.
all employed near very simple 12Db/oct filters.
Listened, imho nothing special, considerate the cost and the very good cabinet and drivers employed..
Majbe also TESSERATC employ same x-over?🙄
probabilly 100 hz , 300 hZ and 2500 Hz , what do you think?
from a 300 k usd iwould be more pleased to see something more particular...😱
Am i wrong?
cheers🙂
hi all,
one time I have seen on a german magazine 2-3 measurement of avalon Eidolon and another more little.
all employed near very simple 12Db/oct filters.
Listened, imho nothing special, considerate the cost and the very good cabinet and drivers employed..
Majbe also TESSERATC employ same x-over?🙄
probabilly 100 hz , 300 hZ and 2500 Hz , what do you think?
from a 300 k usd iwould be more pleased to see something more particular...😱
Am i wrong?
cheers🙂
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