Hi,
I had a pair of 3-way loud speakers which an audio engineer friend of mine helped me build. I was making furniture at the time and I made the cabinets and he built the cross over network and provided all the plans/specs.
He also gave me an NAD 2600 amplifier which he modified with a huge set of capacitors sticking out of the back, he said they were rare military spec. Anyway, for the last ten years, I've been living with my brother and the whole thing has been confined to my bedroom and so I have not used them much at all.
I've been spending half my time in Greece though and finally am moving there permanently this Saturday. There I have a small 2 bedroom house, the main living area is about 15x25 with a tile floor and 12 foot ceilings. I've got a small klipsch bluetooth speaker which I have been enjoying but am thinking about importing my speakers - the amp has to stay behind because the current is different.
I took apart the cabinets and took out the drivers and the cross over network with the plan to take all that to Greece and build new cabinets there.
It all fits in my suitcase, but I can't take much else and my big question is whether it's worth the hassle, given the age of the drivers, am I better off just buying say a $500 set of speakers that will sound great, not take up too much space and be much less of a pain in the a$$.
Here is a list of the drivers, and I'll attach an image of the crossovers.
Vifa P25WO 10"
vifa p13mh-00 made in denmark
and the tweeter I can't make out the whole number, H1 ..........-06 27tdfc made in norway
I think if I could sell it all, I would be happier to just let it all go to a good home, but maybe I could end up with some great speakers.
Finally the cabinets I built for these were pretty big, like 24" tall, 14" deep and 12" wide - something like that - not exact - all out of 1" mdf. If I put these in a new cabinet I wonder if I could end up with a decent sounding speaker in a slightly more compact box.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I had a pair of 3-way loud speakers which an audio engineer friend of mine helped me build. I was making furniture at the time and I made the cabinets and he built the cross over network and provided all the plans/specs.
He also gave me an NAD 2600 amplifier which he modified with a huge set of capacitors sticking out of the back, he said they were rare military spec. Anyway, for the last ten years, I've been living with my brother and the whole thing has been confined to my bedroom and so I have not used them much at all.
I've been spending half my time in Greece though and finally am moving there permanently this Saturday. There I have a small 2 bedroom house, the main living area is about 15x25 with a tile floor and 12 foot ceilings. I've got a small klipsch bluetooth speaker which I have been enjoying but am thinking about importing my speakers - the amp has to stay behind because the current is different.
I took apart the cabinets and took out the drivers and the cross over network with the plan to take all that to Greece and build new cabinets there.
It all fits in my suitcase, but I can't take much else and my big question is whether it's worth the hassle, given the age of the drivers, am I better off just buying say a $500 set of speakers that will sound great, not take up too much space and be much less of a pain in the a$$.
Here is a list of the drivers, and I'll attach an image of the crossovers.
Vifa P25WO 10"
vifa p13mh-00 made in denmark
and the tweeter I can't make out the whole number, H1 ..........-06 27tdfc made in norway
I think if I could sell it all, I would be happier to just let it all go to a good home, but maybe I could end up with some great speakers.
Finally the cabinets I built for these were pretty big, like 24" tall, 14" deep and 12" wide - something like that - not exact - all out of 1" mdf. If I put these in a new cabinet I wonder if I could end up with a decent sounding speaker in a slightly more compact box.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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I don’t think it’s excessive to say the tweeter and mid are legendary. Not familiar with the woofer but I suspect it’s the same. Probably lots of people here who would love to get their hands on those.
It’s not difficult to model cabinet volume for bass reflex or sealed. I suspect winISD is still out there and it’s not hard to use.
If you ask I’m sure someone here will model it for you but that doesn’t sound like a particularly large box for a three way.
Sounds like a really awesome speaker actually, assuming the crossovers are well designed.
It’s not difficult to model cabinet volume for bass reflex or sealed. I suspect winISD is still out there and it’s not hard to use.
If you ask I’m sure someone here will model it for you but that doesn’t sound like a particularly large box for a three way.
Sounds like a really awesome speaker actually, assuming the crossovers are well designed.
Here is the data sheet for the woofer:
http://www.sea.vg/vifa/P25WO-00-08.pdf
I believe your box was 60 litres and the data sheet says you can go as low as 24 litres but you will have much less bass. Don’t change the size of the front baffle as it should be factored into the crossover design.
http://www.sea.vg/vifa/P25WO-00-08.pdf
I believe your box was 60 litres and the data sheet says you can go as low as 24 litres but you will have much less bass. Don’t change the size of the front baffle as it should be factored into the crossover design.
Speaking as someone who came to this country with literally nothing except a more than half empty suitcase, I regret not bringing more books and some of my vinyl.
If you have the room, and can make new nice cabinets, take the stuff with you.
If you have the room, and can make new nice cabinets, take the stuff with you.
Ye Gods! Those are legendary polycone basses and mids! Vifa made amazingly flat drivers back in the day. Eveyone is amazed Vifa STOPPED making them!
The Vifa P13MH-00-08 mid (below) and P13WH-00-08 midbass were a crossover builders dream. There was a much admired P18 too.
The tweeter is your usual SEAS 27TDFC quality soft dome:
https://www.seas.no/index.php?optio...fc&catid=45:seas-prestige-tweeters&Itemid=462
Since you have disassembled the cabinet, and time is tight, I would take the drivers and crossovers with you. Someone in the States might appreciate the cabinets. But you will lose a lot with less than a classic two cubic foot reflex cabinet.
I notice a bennic 68uF NP electrolytic in the crossover, which IMO should be renewed since they age.
What you have here is the classic retro three way, and very nice it is too:
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/3WClassic.htm
The Vifa P13MH-00-08 mid (below) and P13WH-00-08 midbass were a crossover builders dream. There was a much admired P18 too.
The tweeter is your usual SEAS 27TDFC quality soft dome:
https://www.seas.no/index.php?optio...fc&catid=45:seas-prestige-tweeters&Itemid=462
Since you have disassembled the cabinet, and time is tight, I would take the drivers and crossovers with you. Someone in the States might appreciate the cabinets. But you will lose a lot with less than a classic two cubic foot reflex cabinet.
I notice a bennic 68uF NP electrolytic in the crossover, which IMO should be renewed since they age.
What you have here is the classic retro three way, and very nice it is too:
http://www.troelsgravesen.dk/3WClassic.htm
Depending on the exact version of the NAD you have, it may be possible to set it up for a different mains voltage. They made several versions, some had transformers with a split primary that can be wired for both 120/240V. Worth checking.
Wow, thank you all for the good information.
maudio, I did check the internals to see if the amp could be switched to 220, but this is not one of those versions. That makes me wonder, how much will I have to spend to get an amp to drive these things. I don't think I want to spend more than like $800 bucks on this project.
What is a fair price for all this stuff, minus the cabinets themselves, not fair market value, but the "I need to get rid of this before Saturday" price.
Consider that one of the woofers has the a dented cone.
Consider that one of the woofers has the a dented cone.
