The problem is i have binding posts such as those in following links :
https://hfc-fs.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/jantzen-012-0170-binding-post-800.jpg
https://hfc-fs.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/jantzen-012-0170-disassembled-view-800_0.jpg
they come with two star-like circles that i'm not quite sure what to do with.
Anyone knows what should be the correct sequence of nuts and those circles when mounting ? XD
https://hfc-fs.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/jantzen-012-0170-binding-post-800.jpg
https://hfc-fs.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/jantzen-012-0170-disassembled-view-800_0.jpg
they come with two star-like circles that i'm not quite sure what to do with.
Anyone knows what should be the correct sequence of nuts and those circles when mounting ? XD
Not a particularily nice set of binding posts IMO (too much metal). The star shaped thing is a lock washer. Put it under the fixing nut.
dave
dave
Since these aren't insulated they are designed for a wooden cabinet I think. The fittings are perhaps too narrow for MDF or similar fibre boards as they may push through. There ought to be a flat washer for the inside of the cabinet, then nut/crinkle washer/tab/crinkle washer/nut for a vibration-secure fixing of the wire tab.
Perhaps the tab is supposed to act as big washer, but then it won't have a solid connection to the stud. You can solder to the tip if you want, but that's a pain to disassemble.
Perhaps the tab is supposed to act as big washer, but then it won't have a solid connection to the stud. You can solder to the tip if you want, but that's a pain to disassemble.
Agreed 100%
Dave may worry about the eddy currents getting confused by the star washers though. 😉
Dave may worry about the eddy currents getting confused by the star washers though. 😉
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The electrons flowing thru different kind of metals and thru soldered joints is a BIG PROBLEM and it's not just Eddy currents
or maybe just Eddy currents but you/I'll have to investigate, in the meanwhile I prefer direct contact
or maybe just Eddy currents but you/I'll have to investigate, in the meanwhile I prefer direct contact
Those binding posts look really cheap. Bright fake-gold color plating, over aluminum or some type of pot metal base material.
So you use raw copper case and pins transistors connected by twisted wires (no soldering) to pure copper terminals (unplated) to copper wires (no big deal here 😀) to copper binding posts (unplated) to copper wires to copper speaker terminals to pure copper tinsel wires which are twisted to voice coil leads?
I LOVE it when people keeps consistent with own beliefs.
Congratulations.
Won´t even ASK about the zillion soldered joints inside your amplifier and anything in the long path between microphone diaphragm picking original Audio and whateverb reaches your power transistors.
Or Tubes, same thing).
I wonder how we survive such a tin and lead (or tin alone) polluted environment and even worse, why all those galvanic joints (which are batteries) in series do not add up to a couple deadly KV cooking our hearts when we grab an apparently harmless Audio connector.
It's hard to reply to such an enlightened mind 
Let's keep it from the amplifier to the speaker path, as we like to think of black boxes with one wire in-one wire out
We have those binding posts on amplifier's backplate- if it's a SS one they are attached to the PCB part were the delay relay is located; if it's a tube one, after many meters of copper! Luckily the electromagnetic field travels at nearly the speed of light...
So we got the speaker cable that gets attached to speaker terminals, if it's an old speaker. If we're lucky, and clever, the crossover would be outside the speaker box ( inside is a BIG PROBLEM) in the between from the amp and the speakers. So you would have: speaker's binding posts, cable ( or not, there are often crossovers attached directly to input...), often you'll find some fastons, then there are the PCB traces, again cable going to speaker terminals, again a crimped faston, then a little piece of metal connecting to the voice coil...in between a little ( twisted...) flexible cable.
Now tell me what you're gonna do !?! I do often use mammouth to join together all the 'pieces'...
Let's keep it from the amplifier to the speaker path, as we like to think of black boxes with one wire in-one wire out
We have those binding posts on amplifier's backplate- if it's a SS one they are attached to the PCB part were the delay relay is located; if it's a tube one, after many meters of copper! Luckily the electromagnetic field travels at nearly the speed of light...
So we got the speaker cable that gets attached to speaker terminals, if it's an old speaker. If we're lucky, and clever, the crossover would be outside the speaker box ( inside is a BIG PROBLEM) in the between from the amp and the speakers. So you would have: speaker's binding posts, cable ( or not, there are often crossovers attached directly to input...), often you'll find some fastons, then there are the PCB traces, again cable going to speaker terminals, again a crimped faston, then a little piece of metal connecting to the voice coil...in between a little ( twisted...) flexible cable.
Now tell me what you're gonna do !?! I do often use mammouth to join together all the 'pieces'...
So soldered joints are a BIG PROBLEM, and then internal crossovers in speakers are a BIG PROBLEM. Please describe the BIG PROBLEMS so we know what they are. In all my decades in pro audio I never encountered a passive speaker with external crossovers, and yet most of them seem to sound OK.
Pro is different from home.
Different environment, different people (?) different music ( production & re-production).
Sounds Ok is not a target. It must sound hi-fi.
Different environment, different people (?) different music ( production & re-production).
Sounds Ok is not a target. It must sound hi-fi.
HiFiCollective are pretty good on the quality of the products they sell. Which is why they are one of my preferred suppliers.
But the other criticisms are valid, IMO. Plus, if you use plugs, there is another metal to metal barrier to overcome.
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Details please. Especially as that is the picture of Jantzen posts from hificollective.
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Link to website: 012-0170 Jantzen Binding Post M5 / 38mm Pair, Gold plated, red / black | Hifi Collective
Maybe the gold is real, they don't say anything about the base metal underneath. They are described as "low cost" rather than using the term "cheap." From the looks of the leftover machining marks on the metal it looks like cheap junk Jantzen might have outsourced from China. Hopefully, they checked to make sure the gold is real. Still likely aluminum or pot metal underneath the plating, easy enough to check with a small file to remove a little plating from a spot that won't show. Of course, if the base metal is something solder won't stick to then they had to be plated with something to make them solderable.
A reason I suspect they are junk is I have some cheap banana posts from Amazon that look very similar. The gold color on mine did not match up with real gold plating if held in the light. And filing off a bit of the plating revealed soft-ish white base metal, probably aluminum judging from the light weight.
Maybe the gold is real, they don't say anything about the base metal underneath. They are described as "low cost" rather than using the term "cheap." From the looks of the leftover machining marks on the metal it looks like cheap junk Jantzen might have outsourced from China. Hopefully, they checked to make sure the gold is real. Still likely aluminum or pot metal underneath the plating, easy enough to check with a small file to remove a little plating from a spot that won't show. Of course, if the base metal is something solder won't stick to then they had to be plated with something to make them solderable.
A reason I suspect they are junk is I have some cheap banana posts from Amazon that look very similar. The gold color on mine did not match up with real gold plating if held in the light. And filing off a bit of the plating revealed soft-ish white base metal, probably aluminum judging from the light weight.