Oh, that´s just my sneaky way to avoid being sued for unauthorized [tm] infringement 😉You misspelled iPhone.
In Guitar Forums, people avoid naming Mesa Boogie Guitar Amps because they have angry Lawyers so they are often called some variation such as Messy Boogers or Buggers
As of confusing speech recognition software (on any brand phone 😉 ), I guess "numerology speak" such as this example will do it in spades:
The funny thing is that iPhone did it🤣??You misspelled iPhone.
where is all of the hydrogen x2 and oxygen to create that much water? no matter what even if all of it somehow seeped out of the deeper layers of the crust etc. and made into ‘rain’ ? we understand and melted ice thoroughly and that is accepted as the causation of the Noah’s ark event by many? It’s just that the Tigerres and Euphrates rivers Rose substantially (as well as everything else ) and the whole story is completely exaggerated into something it sounds like an entire planet submerged etc. etc.?
this , or Robert Shaw’s idea about solar flares and issues with the sun?? and/or the whole concept of the the taurid meteor belt and ~20,000 years ago large chunk of whatever entered the lower part of the solar system <mars) and for 8500 years it soun around with us until colliding with earth about 11,800 years ago(???)
The erosion of the Egyptian pyramid verses the sphinx and surrounding perimeter walls.? this is the main argument thats represented as something that’s needing substantial changes in the assumed ages of these things and the rest is all kinds of things that are slowly coming out in archaeology.
except unfortunately Egypt because that place is always caught in some kind of political unrest or Civil War type conundrum? I don’t know but that’s the excuse of why the Smithsonian or National Geographic or whoever can’t return there no matter who they try to pay off? It’s a really frustrating and crazy issue especially when things like the go bekli tepe emerge? what do you think?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
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Of course, is there any other way to answer this thread? 😉
Unless you actually believe all the nonsense 😱
Of course, and the main beef I have with "Bible debunkers" who miss the forest for the tree is that they apply modern concepts such as "planet" to the "common knowledge" current way back then.
Which is plain stupid, there is no other word to call it.
Archeology and vulcanology strongly suggest that all that Apocalyptic stuff, which must have been TRULY Apocalyptic for those who suffered it, poor people, is based on oral transmission for way-over one-thousand-years, never forget that "minor" detail, of the very real and catastrophic Thera/Santorini volcano.
Which among many other catastrophes caused the mother of all Tsunamis.
I´d love to read the explanation by any of us if we had been caught in it. 😱
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Thanks, very interesting and to the point.
I love History , including Archeology (I guess it´s noticeable by now 😉 ) but as fascinating as it is, it´s strongly limited by "material proof" (of course), so we have a quite accurate idea of what happened after writing was invented, so, say, 5000 years ago; can more or less "decode" images, sculpture, pottery with way less precision, so say 10000 years ago , of which your mention of Göbekli Tepe is a perfect example, and any earlier is anybody´s guess.
Mind you, there are some artifacts and residues which give some clues, better than nothing, but data must be correlated to other findings to get a less foggy picture.
I approach "old histories" in good faith and much appreciate those who try to sift the sand away to get a few gold pebbles.
"Debunkers"? ... not that much 😉
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"Debunkers"? ... not that much 😉
Instead of "bar room wit" they should make a little effort and actually read serious material, such as:
https://www.amazon.com/Masks-God-Complete-Four-Set/dp/B001AVMTBQ
(which I did, as well of other Joseph Campbell books)
Not holding my breath,since
Oh well.
FWIW I currently have Masks of God .pdf open on my other computer, to read something on my coffee breaks, go figure.
"Debunkers"? ... not that much 😉
Instead of "bar room wit" they should make a little effort and actually read serious material, such as:
https://www.amazon.com/Masks-God-Complete-Four-Set/dp/B001AVMTBQ
(which I did, as well of other Joseph Campbell books)
Not holding my breath,since
amount to:
Oh well.
FWIW I currently have Masks of God .pdf open on my other computer, to read something on my coffee breaks, go figure.
Oh, the biblical flood story is allegory like much of the rest of the Bible. What I was discussing is the physics of a hypothetically flooded world.
(let’s say):
The Noah’s ark event is a cycle and a very serious one according to what archaeology has been able to scrape up between the lies and deceit that didn’t fit the Christian Bible narrative so that of course were censored.
do you realize the insanity of the impact if that is something that can be foreseen predicted in the not so distant future or The repercussions of the fact that it is to blemished by the Christian religion and the Roman Catholic Church and the Vatican etc. who won’t get off their *** and just open the floodgates to the truth so that it can be a scientific reality not just a religious story that’s a bit goofy like a man named Jonah in the whale’s belly?
this is hinging on our own existence as a species again and again and most recently about 12,000 years ago it would appear that possibly the human species may have dwindled into the tens of thousands as a result Oh one of three different types of issues and the impact being one and tell me the things that other people are bringing to surface here or potentially others
Nobody cares (why would they) it’s been made into a funny story that no one believes about a flooded planet and A man collects animals in the most amazing the impossible of ways, opps, I forgot the dinosaurs or that’s why they’re gone I guess?? 🤷🏻😂This is the problem with religion always but this one is a monumentally disastrous version of it all , the moment it happens again?
The Noah’s ark event is a cycle and a very serious one according to what archaeology has been able to scrape up between the lies and deceit that didn’t fit the Christian Bible narrative so that of course were censored.
do you realize the insanity of the impact if that is something that can be foreseen predicted in the not so distant future or The repercussions of the fact that it is to blemished by the Christian religion and the Roman Catholic Church and the Vatican etc. who won’t get off their *** and just open the floodgates to the truth so that it can be a scientific reality not just a religious story that’s a bit goofy like a man named Jonah in the whale’s belly?
this is hinging on our own existence as a species again and again and most recently about 12,000 years ago it would appear that possibly the human species may have dwindled into the tens of thousands as a result Oh one of three different types of issues and the impact being one and tell me the things that other people are bringing to surface here or potentially others
Nobody cares (why would they) it’s been made into a funny story that no one believes about a flooded planet and A man collects animals in the most amazing the impossible of ways, opps, I forgot the dinosaurs or that’s why they’re gone I guess?? 🤷🏻😂This is the problem with religion always but this one is a monumentally disastrous version of it all , the moment it happens again?
Cool. <------ this answer applies to post #171
Then it´s clear: since matter is not created out of the blue nor disappears in vacuum, forget "enough water to cover 12000 km diameter Planet Earth, with a uniform 8km thick layer" because it isn´t there, where would it come from, and where would it drain afterwards?
In fact it was never mentioned
Only thing worse than taking ancient writings literally is trying to being literal debunking it 😱
Waste of effort but mainly lack of focus.
I suggest a mental exercise: imagine what verbal description of Hiroshima/Nagasaki attacks would be like after reaching a small faraway fisherman village at the ends of Japan, with no Radio/TV/Pictures/Newspapers, just oral transmission by "common people": peasants, farmers, wokers, truck drivers, policemen, etc.
Ever heard of the "broken telephone" game?
Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
Extrapolate that to thousands sequential people along 1600 years.
I would not WASTE time debunking clearly nonsense add ons and embellishments or gross exaggerations but try, in good faith, to find what might have originated it.
Again: remember Troy.
Then it´s clear: since matter is not created out of the blue nor disappears in vacuum, forget "enough water to cover 12000 km diameter Planet Earth, with a uniform 8km thick layer" because it isn´t there, where would it come from, and where would it drain afterwards?
In fact it was never mentioned
Only thing worse than taking ancient writings literally is trying to being literal debunking it 😱
Waste of effort but mainly lack of focus.
I suggest a mental exercise: imagine what verbal description of Hiroshima/Nagasaki attacks would be like after reaching a small faraway fisherman village at the ends of Japan, with no Radio/TV/Pictures/Newspapers, just oral transmission by "common people": peasants, farmers, wokers, truck drivers, policemen, etc.
Ever heard of the "broken telephone" game?
Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers
Extrapolate that to thousands sequential people along 1600 years.
I would not WASTE time debunking clearly nonsense add ons and embellishments or gross exaggerations but try, in good faith, to find what might have originated it.
Again: remember Troy.
