I have a pair of 4" phillips full rangers (will be replaced in future) that distort anytime any heavy bass is played . So I have been looking to build a either a pair of speakers that specifically play the lower end or a dedicated subwoofer. Moderate spl about 85-95 db not looking to go too low ; room is 270 sq ft and my budget is $150 usd. Wavecor, SB audience/acoustics, some Dayton and faital woofers are available in local market.
Any suggestions would be helpful and btw it is meant for a home theatre.
Any suggestions would be helpful and btw it is meant for a home theatre.
4" Philips "full range" really need to be replaced with something better unless you can limit the bass frequencies your amp is sending to the front channels, or they are going to distort even with a sub, (assuming you have an audio theater amplifier you may be able to set the speaker size to "small" or otherwise apply some sort of high pass other ways through the settings. Without better fronts, you will probably have trouble getting the subwoofer low pass filter set up to a decent place to meet where they can dovetail/transition. I'd spend money on the fronts and get some bass from them before shopping for a subwoofer.
For that room size, I would shoot for decent two-way bookshelf speakers, mid-bass drivers in the 5" to 6" range, then you will tolerate the bass frequencies and dovetail much better with a sub. Since price is an issue, I typically refer to "cheapaudioman" on YouTube, as he always has tons of recommends for speakers in the sub-$200 range that are decent. I don't do any kits, but I am sure you can maybe save some money doing a kit, maybe not- there are a lot of cheap pre-built speakers out there. I'd scrounge the used market and fix this big problem first, then you will have a reference point to improve later with a kit or more expensive speakers, or find that sub to dovetail with the fronts.
For that room size, I would shoot for decent two-way bookshelf speakers, mid-bass drivers in the 5" to 6" range, then you will tolerate the bass frequencies and dovetail much better with a sub. Since price is an issue, I typically refer to "cheapaudioman" on YouTube, as he always has tons of recommends for speakers in the sub-$200 range that are decent. I don't do any kits, but I am sure you can maybe save some money doing a kit, maybe not- there are a lot of cheap pre-built speakers out there. I'd scrounge the used market and fix this big problem first, then you will have a reference point to improve later with a kit or more expensive speakers, or find that sub to dovetail with the fronts.
I am going to replace them MA Pluvia 7 in a pensil enclosure. By the way is there something like tang band w6-1139sif but with greater power handling?
This should be more in the fullrange forum section, as you want to make a WAW, a woofer assisted wideband speaker.
The philips drivers are old (style) fullrange drivers, and you need to be sure they are in a good shape. They in general have little xmax so don't do bass to modern standards, especially a 4". I would replace them with a modern driver if you want to keep it like a fullrange driver. Mark Audio is in general a good brand, and the CHP-90 MICA is what i would use now.
I made a similar system years ago with the Mark Audio Alpair 10.3 (NLA) and a Scanspeak 26W8534 10" woofer crossed at 300Hz LR4 with dsp (before passive as this set is 10 years old in oldest form). That works very well and go very low. You can use another woofer also, but make sure it plays clean to 500Hz and cross arround 250 to 300Hz to the fullrange driver. That high will make the fullrange driver much cleaner (it has to work less) but still keeps the fullrange sound. Crossover could be dsp or passive, i did try both and used and liked both. Now it's dsp, but i may go back to passive in the futur.
Good drivers could be the Faital 10FE330, the SB WO24 and SB23 series or the Dayton RS270 series (of the brands you mention). There are probally more, but those i know and i know they fit such a waw system. The Scanspeak I have is great for this and relative cheap also down here (I don't know at your place).
The philips drivers are old (style) fullrange drivers, and you need to be sure they are in a good shape. They in general have little xmax so don't do bass to modern standards, especially a 4". I would replace them with a modern driver if you want to keep it like a fullrange driver. Mark Audio is in general a good brand, and the CHP-90 MICA is what i would use now.
I made a similar system years ago with the Mark Audio Alpair 10.3 (NLA) and a Scanspeak 26W8534 10" woofer crossed at 300Hz LR4 with dsp (before passive as this set is 10 years old in oldest form). That works very well and go very low. You can use another woofer also, but make sure it plays clean to 500Hz and cross arround 250 to 300Hz to the fullrange driver. That high will make the fullrange driver much cleaner (it has to work less) but still keeps the fullrange sound. Crossover could be dsp or passive, i did try both and used and liked both. Now it's dsp, but i may go back to passive in the futur.
Good drivers could be the Faital 10FE330, the SB WO24 and SB23 series or the Dayton RS270 series (of the brands you mention). There are probally more, but those i know and i know they fit such a waw system. The Scanspeak I have is great for this and relative cheap also down here (I don't know at your place).
No, I think you misinterpreted my message I want to build something like a subwoofer or midbass with smaller driver, smaller footprint that can be used in a range of configuration with obviously changes to the crossover. You know like use it like a "subwoofer" and then when you have the budget get a proper subwoofer and you can reuse the driver in a multiway or something like that.