Other than visually looking good, I haven't had a chance to do anything with them. Not even Idss yet.
Any conclusions, anyone?
I spent a lot of time looking at boards and kits. I ordered 4 PCBs from ESP Proj 101 and he does an excellent job updating his site and availability of parts, I hope. I have not received the boards yet. I am sure this site needs the profits to maintain it. So the money was well spent, but a shame. These designs have to suffer. Doing speaker projects are just as bad. I had a hell of a time finding Focal speakers. I still have one Focal TC120 new in the box. I am sure, well, no I'm not sure. I wish I was knowledgeable enough to come up with a solution.
Can that part of the circuit be redesigned without altering the PCB? What is the minimum amount obtainable from a chip Mfg Co.?
Well I received an e mail from Spencer. Not sure if it is in US$ at $200. Hope it is good news.
I spent a lot of time looking at boards and kits. I ordered 4 PCBs from ESP Proj 101 and he does an excellent job updating his site and availability of parts, I hope. I have not received the boards yet. I am sure this site needs the profits to maintain it. So the money was well spent, but a shame. These designs have to suffer. Doing speaker projects are just as bad. I had a hell of a time finding Focal speakers. I still have one Focal TC120 new in the box. I am sure, well, no I'm not sure. I wish I was knowledgeable enough to come up with a solution.
Can that part of the circuit be redesigned without altering the PCB? What is the minimum amount obtainable from a chip Mfg Co.?
Well I received an e mail from Spencer. Not sure if it is in US$ at $200. Hope it is good news.
Measure the Idss and the Vp.
These two values will confirm if it is a high gm device.
Borbely and others give the method.
The equipment and the method are very simple.
These two values will confirm if it is a high gm device.
Borbely and others give the method.
The equipment and the method are very simple.
I've got some really good news concerning the B&D Toshibas - They appear to be genuine.
😀 😀 😀
I sent my batch to Wayne Colburn (The preamp guru of Pass Labs) who graciously applied all his expertise to measuring them. He is pleased to report back that the Idss and Noise is all within spec, but most importantly, the curve trace is genuine. These are certainly not re-branded switches.
Also of note, they have the Toshiba 2SK2013 / 2SJ313 in stock. These are use in the BA-3 Front End. They are not cheap, but they are still cheaper than tubes... I ordered a few.
So have at it, get while the getting is good, who knows how many they have.
Oh, one other thing, I'm not sure if they are actually "matching" when you order the SKU that is the pair... Perhaps it's just a 'matched set' of the N and P channel. Regardless, I strongly suggest ordering at least 10pr. Toshiba is never going to make these again.
😀 😀 😀
I sent my batch to Wayne Colburn (The preamp guru of Pass Labs) who graciously applied all his expertise to measuring them. He is pleased to report back that the Idss and Noise is all within spec, but most importantly, the curve trace is genuine. These are certainly not re-branded switches.
Also of note, they have the Toshiba 2SK2013 / 2SJ313 in stock. These are use in the BA-3 Front End. They are not cheap, but they are still cheaper than tubes... I ordered a few.
So have at it, get while the getting is good, who knows how many they have.
Oh, one other thing, I'm not sure if they are actually "matching" when you order the SKU that is the pair... Perhaps it's just a 'matched set' of the N and P channel. Regardless, I strongly suggest ordering at least 10pr. Toshiba is never going to make these again.
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I just ordered a bunch of the 170s and j74 + the 2sk2013&2sj313s for my BA-3 that I want to build. Thanks 6L6 for having these tested It's so nice to get the real thing for a good price.
I just ordered a bunch of the 170s and j74 + the 2sk2013&2sj313s for my BA-3 that I want to build. Thanks 6L6 for having these tested It's so nice to get the real thing for a good price.
I called and spoke to someone. They are genuine. However, the matched pairs are matched by grade only. So you may need a good number of pairs to get good matches.
That will be fine.
The BA-3 front end is tolerant of unmatched Fets, the bias pots will make up for quite a bit.
The BA-3 front end is tolerant of unmatched Fets, the bias pots will make up for quite a bit.
I received my F4 boards from the diy store yesterday. I still need to get the mosfets from Buzz. I'm so looking forward to hearing this combination!
zoe - My F4 has the Fairchild outputs from Buzz, it sounds great! I really love that amp.
I've got an Impasse preamp project underway as well as a BA-3 in early stages.
I've got an Impasse preamp project underway as well as a BA-3 in early stages.
Ordered from Spencer, &B&D. MCM lists replacments from Panasonic I think. I not sure about the specs.
What I am doing is looking for traning in how the outer components drive the transistors, ie resistors . I don't work with them enough.
Glad for people taking the time to help!!!
What I am doing is looking for traning in how the outer components drive the transistors, ie resistors . I don't work with them enough.
Glad for people taking the time to help!!!
I received my order from B&D yesterday that was fast.
Now I need to build a test circuit to match them. I read on one of
EUVL post how they are not true complementary devices so I think a little miss match
would be ok maybe better I need to go back and read that post.
Now I need to build a test circuit to match them. I read on one of
EUVL post how they are not true complementary devices so I think a little miss match
would be ok maybe better I need to go back and read that post.
Yep, they (B&D) are fast. I'm quite happy
They (The Toshibas) are also about the best complementary pair made for audio. I wouldn't worry about the super small amount of tweaking. Anyway, if you are making a BA-3 or F5T, P3 will take care of it.
They (The Toshibas) are also about the best complementary pair made for audio. I wouldn't worry about the super small amount of tweaking. Anyway, if you are making a BA-3 or F5T, P3 will take care of it.
Sadly, all that would do is drive the prices up.
Not if everyone buys 20 pairs and compares the Idss from all of them. Likely to get better matches among say 100 pairs than 20.
If everyone separately matches them, will they use the same method and conditions? Everyone wants the best pairs. Including me.
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