"Poster announcing a major exhibit in Germany, August 28th 1936, to September 6th, 1936 in Berlin. A wireless broadcasting showing an Eagle with its beak open emitting radio waves as circles." The original version had accompanying text announcing the event...
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Your radio is part of a collection of German radios in Germany using tubes whose base is German designed .
Very collectable in the UK .
The sticker is standard German eagle propaganda of "ruling the airwaves " in that era.
I would not part with it unless you need a lot of money.
Just noticed Richard,s post ---this radio did not appear commercially till about 1940 although the sticker is earlier.
Very collectable in the UK .
The sticker is standard German eagle propaganda of "ruling the airwaves " in that era.
I would not part with it unless you need a lot of money.
Just noticed Richard,s post ---this radio did not appear commercially till about 1940 although the sticker is earlier.
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That radio was part and was build under the Führer initiative "free radio propaganda for the Reich" since 1933. Congrats to that real quality Reichsrundfunkradio!
It was actually a much higher quality build than the earlier Bakelite -
Volksempfanger VE301 ( Peoples Radio ) which is the one most people associate with 1930,s Germany .
Schmitz one of my search engines is German its good for locating technical websites .
Volksempfanger VE301 ( Peoples Radio ) which is the one most people associate with 1930,s Germany .
Schmitz one of my search engines is German its good for locating technical websites .
Excellent! Always worth half the rent when knowing where to begin searching.
Once I owned such a Saba radio. Donno which model exactly but it looked like this one. It was excellent in many ways, made shortly before WW2 took its toll on manufacturing civil products. Wasn't cheap as the Volksempfänger but really good Saba quality with Funken steel tubes and an ECL11. Speaker was one of the first perm magnet version famous Saba wideband, but no greencone. Gave it away for some unknown reasons before they became rare. Just 25 years ago.
Once I owned such a Saba radio. Donno which model exactly but it looked like this one. It was excellent in many ways, made shortly before WW2 took its toll on manufacturing civil products. Wasn't cheap as the Volksempfänger but really good Saba quality with Funken steel tubes and an ECL11. Speaker was one of the first perm magnet version famous Saba wideband, but no greencone. Gave it away for some unknown reasons before they became rare. Just 25 years ago.
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Not exactly. Do you notice the differences?
One has several circles, the other shows only one infinite= reel tape.
One has several circles, the other shows only one infinite= reel tape.
Yes, similar, but not identical.
The BASF logo is a spiral rather than a series of concentric circles, and is simply a representation of tape being wound on a reel.
Just being pedantic! 🙂
The BASF logo is a spiral rather than a series of concentric circles, and is simply a representation of tape being wound on a reel.
Just being pedantic! 🙂
They have become rare because many have been destroyed to resell the speakers. I often see the sad remains of Saba radios like this one on hamfests and other similar places; I once bought at very low price a bunch of Saba chassis from a seller that clearly took the valuable parts from the radio and dumped the remains. Reusing old parts to make them useful again is a good thing, but the early Saba production was built very well and it a shame to destroy the radio just because the current collector market value of certain models is lower than the value of the parts.
The Saba 360wkh is almost identical to the 355wh, the main difference is that the earlier 355wh does not have shortwave. After the war a similar massive wood cabinet style and many parts such as the AZ12 rectifier mounted on top of the power transformer have been used on the Freiburg W line. I have two faulty Freiburg W10 with push-pull output stage that I paid 30 euro each without the speakers, and I will try to combine them in a working one, with a modern speaker. It is not possible to get a luxury Italian tube radio of the same age at this price level, even in a far worse shape. I got the impression that, with some exceptions mainly related to design (Braun etc), tube radio collecting is going out of fashion in Germany.
Old tube radios are not going out of fashion in the UK and early bakelite models in good condition still command high prices ,especially the early bakelite Third Reich model.
It was intentionally limited in its receiving range at the time.
It was intentionally limited in its receiving range at the time.
I picked up a saba freiburg 3ds automatic from a flea market for $60 a couple years ago b/c I figured the tubes inside might be worth the money alone. I had no idea what it was and didn't know anything about it at the time. It doesn't work and has a bunch of mouse damage. I plugged it in once and it made static, but mice had eaten the 10" paper cones and built a nest inside. Lots of feces and urine in there. Looked like someone had hacked/added an auxilliary audio input at one time. I vacuumed it out and as the guts are way beyond my level of expertise to repair, was thinking about using the cabinet and working speakers as an output for another source. I also wonder if re-coning the old 10" drivers was possible as the magnets and center of the cones are still physically intact.. (I cannot for the life of me find 10" saba green cones for sale anywhere). The other 4 speakers appear to be in great shape. I ended up realizing what it was after some searching and felt guilty about tearing it down until I talked to a collector who states parting it out may be best option due to all the mouse damage. The outer case isn't in horrible condition, just a mouse sized hole in the front fabric.
No, surely not. In the meantime collectible old radios have become really scarce and expensive. Almost any of them are in the hands of collectors who won't part with them.
Re Saba Freiburg: During the time of it's existence, i.e. until it was bought out and finally folded by Thomson CSF, SABA (Schwarzwälder Apparate-Bau-Anstalt August Schwer Söhne GmbH) belonged to the top German radio and consumer electronics manufacturers in Germany with a very good reputation, better than Grundig's and even Telefunken's. Their Freiburg line were absolutely top-notch radios. I own a Freiburg Automatic 9 that is as old as me and still in good working condition (also as me 🤣 ). It features a PP output stage with a pair of EL84's, motorized automatic station scanning with fine tuning, and four speakers in it's huge enclosure. I had to rewind the partially burned output transformer after I've bought it 36 years ago. Sadly, the back panel is missing.
I don't understand why SABA green cones are so sought after, though. They're nothing else than plain speakers, representing the state of the art for the time they were made. Admittedly, they sound fine - in the original enclosure and in conjunction with the original electronics. But true hifi is another pair of shoes. Speaker development has made huge progress since then.
To the thread opener, if he's still around: Which radio exactly did you show in #1?
Best regards!
Glad to know that collectible radios are still sought after in Germany. The original poster stated that the radio is a 360WKH, the radiomuseum designation of this model is S-360WKH. It does use a ECL11 audio tube, it should be a good candidate for a single-tube amplifier because it is electrically close to ECL86.
Regarding the Saba Freiburg 3ds: if the chassis can be cleaned, the case is in good shape and a replacement fabric can be found, then a partial restoration may be successful. The radio frequency section is tricky to repair, but the power supply and the audio amplifier are easier to put back in service: the radio can be used as powered speaker. As Kay Pirinha wrote, the original 10'' drivers don't have any special technical characteristics, and can be replaced.
Regarding the Saba Freiburg 3ds: if the chassis can be cleaned, the case is in good shape and a replacement fabric can be found, then a partial restoration may be successful. The radio frequency section is tricky to repair, but the power supply and the audio amplifier are easier to put back in service: the radio can be used as powered speaker. As Kay Pirinha wrote, the original 10'' drivers don't have any special technical characteristics, and can be replaced.
This is interesting. Anyone have any idea what a good 10" replacement would be? I have no idea where to start or what characteristics should be sought. Should I go to another thread to figure this out?