Hello Marce,
Yes you are right, but here there are some people who are more playing the provocation without saying what are the main devices they own.
Testimonials like Ostripper about materials or Andrea Ciuffoli's test on dac chips with à same layout test bench are too rare...
At minima some in this thread should say why they have what they have....
Yes you are right, but here there are some people who are more playing the provocation without saying what are the main devices they own.
Testimonials like Ostripper about materials or Andrea Ciuffoli's test on dac chips with à same layout test bench are too rare...
At minima some in this thread should say why they have what they have....
The two so called DACs you mention are DAC-chips , not the final product.
The analogue section, the filtering has as much (if not more) influence on the final sound of a finished DAC unit.
Also the ASIO and WASAPI are just two different ways of bypassing the windows mixer, in order to 'talk' to the DAC directly.
Why do some people on this forum are convinced that anybody who buys an expensive DAC must be an idiot with more money than sense (because they all sound the same)?
There was such a school of thought, back in 70's and 80's about turntables.
Some thought, the turntable is just a rotating platter, there is no way it could have an effect on the final sound, hell they all sound the same.
Now we know different, but then, very successfully and bravely manufacturers such as Linn and Roksan went against such grain, produced turntables that delighted many 'in the know' -
those turntables if serviced and setup right can still delight.
Here is my eq.
@Home: Ripped music on server, Leema acoustics elements DAC, home build OTL mono-block tube amps, Sonus Faber grand piano home speakers (rebuilt Xovers)
@Work: Teac UD501 DAC, home made EL84 based 15W poweramp, Sonus Faber Concerto's (rebuilt Xovers)
I also have had or still do, Asus Xonar pci sound card, Asus xonar essence one, Teac UD-H01, Benchmark DAC1, Audiolab M-Dac, PS Audio digital Link III, Meridian 208 CD player, Meridian 203 DAC, Chord (?) DAC which I did not like very much.
Not wishing to be a pedant but there is no such thing as '24/96 SACD'. SACD is DSD. I assume you mean Hi Res downloads that hopefully started life as DSD and were converted to 24/96?
You and your level matched listening tests!
that's only part of the story.
For most, living with a piece of equipment matters, that why prudent people part with money, after a dealer allows them 'home auditioning' for weeks before buying.
In a controlled room, concentrating to pick up differences between A & B is not the same as listening to a device for sometime.
Level matched, blind or otherwise, listening tests are good engineers, so are specifications, graphs and numbers.
You don't buy a BMW because it has so many lb/inch compression in each cylinder, do you?
Nor do you buy a sports car, after just a quick test drive.
(if you do, lend us some money, you must have a lot)
Probably, yes. Most people can't distinguish them from CD. In far too many cases, 'hi-res' material is simply processed CD.KenTajalli said:
I saw this stuff in a 1960s book by James Moir. He describes how the technical requirements for hi-fi were established. Of course, we know a bit more now; sad that some people want to behave as though we now know less!planet10 said:
I am very pleased that this forum is generally free from such silly distractions.Eldam said:
I have always assumed that people buy BMWs because they think it says something about them. It does, but not perhaps what they imagine it says.KenTajalli said:
I was amused by one young fellow who works for me; when he bought a BMW, I asked why he chose it. His answer: "If I'm going to drive like an ***hole, I want people to know this at a glance."
If there is a respectable BMW driver I want to shake his (or Her) hand....
Note the singular.
Now, now
we are getting racist about cars and their owners.
BTW what kind of DAC do they use in Beamers?
(Please don't answer, it is a Joke!)
Those are the ones, people can not distinguish!
HDTracks.com do not publish any material, they find out to be CD quality, they do this by comparing the material against the CD, it must pass 24/88.2KHz at least.
BTW a lot of DSD's are the same.
Also a lot DSD's start life as 24/96KHz or 24/192KHz recorded and mixed.
Most recording studios do not have native DSD equipments yet.
It would be nice to check out a fully native DSD piece of music played back on a proper system.
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Btw there are much more stupid citations as base lines...much more silly behavior and even more unusefull..
The subject became: how much k dollars by % of distorsion for the less idiots...
The subject became: how much k dollars by % of distorsion for the less idiots...
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No, that's for middle age guys whose generative organs no longer function properly.
My 2CV has a 20 cm boomer... I really had hésitation to buy a bigger... car. LOL, I painted it in red...the speaker.
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And I bet you have a mini-garden in your 2CV, somewhere!
My mom used to have one, the car I mean.