This is to confirm I have implemented my sealed cabinet see image attached.
how low can they go
vmps
how low can they go
vmps
For a sealed box and with these dimensions it can hit -3db(simulated measurement) around 95Hz and I use a subwoofer dial to around 100Hz x-over with it.
I am listening to it right now with the above combo it sounds great anyone building it will be happy. It costs me US$90 for the drivers(2 units) and the cabinet is very simple. I read many reviews on the best 2-way speakers and they one thing in common, the cabinet dimension ratios are very close to each other. I duplicated that dimension ratios the result is it throws a large sound stage(*) for such small speakers. Couple with no x--over it sounds really good and they are driven from a pair of common amplifier(15watts) with an integrated CD player.
* actually I intend to use it as my computer speakers, it exceeded my expectation. Mind you I have built a pair of Fe167E(left unused) before, I like these speakers better. I know what full range sounds like.
Cheers.
For a sealed box and with these dimensions it can hit -3db(simulated measurement) around 95Hz and I use a subwoofer dial to around 100Hz x-over with it.
I am listening to it right now with the above combo it sounds great anyone building it will be happy. It costs me US$90 for the drivers(2 units) and the cabinet is very simple. I read many reviews on the best 2-way speakers and they one thing in common, the cabinet dimension ratios are very close to each other. I duplicated that dimension ratios the result is it throws a large sound stage(*) for such small speakers. Couple with no x--over it sounds really good and they are driven from a pair of common amplifier(15watts) with an integrated CD player.
* actually I intend to use it as my computer speakers, it exceeded my expectation. Mind you I have built a pair of Fe167E(left unused) before, I like these speakers better. I know what full range sounds like.
Cheers.
thanks for they infor, i may try them out
vmps
I also bought a pair of these off e-bay, based I have to admit on the photos.
Had I seen a picture of the tiny magnet on the back though, I may have thought twice.
I hope I'll be surprised when I try them out!
Hi, I'm quite interested in buying some of these, what was the buying experience like? Did you have to wait long? What import charges were there?
Thanks
I also bought a pair of these off e-bay, based I have to admit on the photos.
Had I seen a picture of the tiny magnet on the back though, I may have thought twice.
I hope I'll be surprised when I try them out!
It's a neodymium magnet, not to be confused with ferrite which needs to be much larger to yield the same strength field.
A slight deviation from topic. I bought a pair of NSW2 from this site, to experiment with a Pluto type design. He was very helpful in sorting out an (ebay) payment problem, delivery was very prompt, and the small speakers were very well packed. I haven't tried them yet but they look fine, I feel he is worth recommending
Hello - Can anyone recomend any horn enclosures for these drivers. I am about to put them into 5liter sealed boxes.
5 litre sealed is fine, I put mine in the same box size, sounds terrific(very open), I am listening to them right now.
Putting them in horn enclosure takes up to much space!
horn
i think my double horn KORNETT will work
very good with a cheap invers driver in the back
like Monacor SPH-60
look my HP
measurements and translate the feedbacks!
Hello - Can anyone recomend any horn enclosures for these drivers. I am about to put them into 5liter sealed boxes.
i think my double horn KORNETT will work
very good with a cheap invers driver in the back
like Monacor SPH-60
look my HP
measurements and translate the feedbacks!
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Drivers on Zigma
Good evening,
As I wrote before I tried to put these speakers on Zigma's enclosure.
My main speakers are a pair of JBL en3 with s21 (in other word: a bigger L65), so you can image how surprised I was when I clearly heard the bass Moog on "The old castle" (ELP Picture at an exhibition) from those skinny speakers...
(2nd tumbnail)
I also compared them with standard fe103 on the same Zigma and on Pico-Lino coupled on the floor (as you can see). I think the latter solution gain a little more bass.
(1st tumbnail)
So, summing up, I think fostex are more natural on mid and high, but the chinese speakers can go really low and I think their response are al lot wider than fostex's.
I'll post more after the next 25 hours of playing.
Good evening,
As I wrote before I tried to put these speakers on Zigma's enclosure.
My main speakers are a pair of JBL en3 with s21 (in other word: a bigger L65), so you can image how surprised I was when I clearly heard the bass Moog on "The old castle" (ELP Picture at an exhibition) from those skinny speakers...
(2nd tumbnail)
I also compared them with standard fe103 on the same Zigma and on Pico-Lino coupled on the floor (as you can see). I think the latter solution gain a little more bass.
(1st tumbnail)
So, summing up, I think fostex are more natural on mid and high, but the chinese speakers can go really low and I think their response are al lot wider than fostex's.
I'll post more after the next 25 hours of playing.
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Good evening,
As I wrote before I tried to put these speakers on Zigma's enclosure.
My main speakers are a pair of JBL en3 with s21 (in other word: a bigger L65), so you can image how surprised I was when I clearly heard the bass Moog on "The old castle" (ELP Picture at an exhibition) from those skinny speakers...
(2nd tumbnail)
I also compared them with standard fe103 on the same Zigma and on Pico-Lino coupled on the floor (as you can see). I think the latter solution gain a little more bass.
(1st tumbnail)
So, summing up, I think fostex are more natural on mid and high, but the chinese speakers can go really low and I think their response are al lot wider than fostex's.
I'll post more after the next 25 hours of playing.
Hi,
I have similar speakers, did you flush mount your drivers?
I found the highs are little more pronounced( I should perform some measurement to confirm this) and should be tamed, after more than 50hrs of listening.
Overall I really like this driver better than my Fostex FE167, they add more body to the sound reproduction, whereas FE267 sounds very thin in comparison.
Hi,
I have similar speakers, did you flush mount your drivers?
I found the highs are little more pronounced( I should perform some measurement to confirm this) and should be tamed, after more than 50hrs of listening.
Overall I really like this driver better than my Fostex FE167, they add more body to the sound reproduction, whereas FE267 sounds very thin in comparison.
No, i mount them straight over the wood without carving it. I use 12mm birch plywood, with 45° cut behind the speaker to let him "breath", so I couldn't make the front baffle thinner!
I agree with you: they give more body to the music than my fe103.
How did you tame the high frequencies?
No, i mount them straight over the wood without carving it. I use 12mm birch plywood, with 45° cut behind the speaker to let him "breath", so I couldn't make the front baffle thinner!
I agree with you: they give more body to the music than my fe103.
How did you tame the high frequencies?
I haven't fix the HF response yet, flush mount will obviously help, I strongly suspect there is a rising response.
My initial thought would be a simple parallel inductor and resistor value (a high freq.shelving equalization BTW, I have yet to measure FR) starts around maybe 6-8Khz.
or alternative
add a tweeter(or super tweeter) x-over at possibly 6-8Khz, a 6dB slope(on either end) may work. This approach will improve dispersion and directivity as well and at the same time will give you a smooth top end.
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