Thanks Charles,
This one looks pretty good on graph and high efficiency too
I think it was one of our swedish members who used them.
Also posted pictures and the catalogue does NOT do them justice in the looks department.
Searching here might prove worthwhile.
Not the cheapest option but should fit your budget...just.
I think the drivers were fine, although I suspect PE sent me a restocked item ( previous buyer didnt like them? ) both drivers sounded the same. Peaky and smeared in the 4-8k range. Typically high spl drivers will have a lot of details, these guys didnt. I was very disappointed with them.
They were tested with a 2.2uF cap in series. I forget if I had a second order inductor in place or not. This was years ago.
I replaced them with vifa xt25's, which were great. Although, not as sensitive....
..my guess is the drivers were damaged either from the factory or a previous purchaser (..it's easy to do, particularly with a soldering iron on the terminals.) 😱 😀
Who knows though, maybe it is a crap driver. (..it's almost sparking my interest to purchase a pair.. almost.)
-again, used properly they should easily outperform both compression drivers and std. tweeters.. BUT they aren't for the lower treble.
Zaph has the old YAG 20 measured which is similar to Dayton's old PT2C-8, where you can see the problems with distortion at lower freq.s and the narrowing vertical directivity (..which usually requires a directed/aimed driver approach for the design):
Zaph|Audio
Even the reviews on the old Dayton are pretty good, and tend to emphasize the "clarity" character I mentioned:
Dayton Audio PT2C-8 Planar Tweeter
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How does $242 for a pair of 96db tweeters with 600Hz Fs that extends to 40khz sound?
SATORI TW29RN :: SB Acoustics
Available for $121.50 from Madisound
SATORI TW29RN :: SB Acoustics
Available for $121.50 from Madisound
How does $242 for a pair of 96db tweeters with 600Hz Fs that extends to 40khz sound?
SATORI TW29RN :: SB Acoustics
Available for $121.50 from Madisound
Thanks Chris, this is a good driver although a bit low on efficiency.
What horn is the mid driver on? Actually, I'm curious about the whole setup. Please post pictures.
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Albert
Thanks for the pic.
Does your crossover setup allow you to delay the midhorn? If you could get the horn mouths abutting, the integration might be a little better.
I see you have the lowest bass boosted by the same amount as the highest treble. The ATP 200 is down to about 95dB in that range, which implies that anything >95dB through the treble could replace the ATP, while using roughly the same settings.
In my similar case (small room, 2445J + pictured horn + 15s), with the cheap Fostex tweeter, the problem wasn't efficiency. The problem was getting the combo to sound natural on vocals (e.g. The Staple Singers). To me, it integrated better with the tweeter actually inside the mid horn. I didn't find a perfect solution.
Doesn't work: pic of similar rig
This link contains a review of a tweeter, which costs about $150 but seems promising: it measures flatter + louder than the ATP, particularly over 10kHz.
review of FD371 bullet tweeter
Picture link failed, here is the thread instead
Tweeter for coaxial mounting in midrange horn
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Correct me if im wrong but do baffle step not boost it to 99db @ 1M?
Thanks Chris, this is a good driver although a bit low on efficiency.
Correct me if im wrong but do baffle step not boost it to 99db @ 1M?
1) baffle step is a thing that matters at the lower end of a driver's range.
2) The SB Acoustics FR plots state that they are measured on an IEC baffle (which is really big, so the baffle effects are low in frequency).
Unless you put the tweeter on a horn, you'll get no boost. The only baffle effects likely in practice are a bit of ripple from close baffle edges & nearby objects ...such as those rather large midhorns.
Dayton Audio PHT1-6 Planar Horn Tweeter 6 Ohm
How about this one. I’ve never hear it but I thought it will interesting as it will perform just like a compression driver in efficiency but it's a ribbon.
Oon
How about this one. I’ve never hear it but I thought it will interesting as it will perform just like a compression driver in efficiency but it's a ribbon.
Oon
The Beyma CP 22 are very good and still well affordable. If you want a wider dispersion (the CP 22 are very narrow with 40°), go for the slot tweeter version CP21/F.
Correct me if im wrong but do baffle step not boost it to 99db @ 1M?
Would like to have something between 105-110db.
Correct me if im wrong but do baffle step not boost it to 99db @ 1M?
B&C DE35 seems worth investigating for the range you've mentioned. Price looks reasonable and one horn designer I know speaks well of them.
Heard about this tweeter and it's up to my list. Thanks
The Beyma CP 22 are very good and still well affordable. If you want a wider dispersion (the CP 22 are very narrow with 40°), go for the slot tweeter version CP21/F.
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