Wide Directivity 2 way compact Speaker T34A Waveguide and Purifi 6.5 Aluminium

Yes, it is hard to know in advance how much cabinet rigidity and damping is good enough. Due to the difficulty of adding stiffness or structural damping to a cabinet after it is built, I usually go for the conservative approach and go a bit overboard on stiffness and damping.

In aircraft and space vehicles, we do manage to make removable maintenance panels which are load bearing. They have the same stiffness and strength as if there were no door, just normal structure. There is a large weight penalty of course, and a large increase in complexity and cost. But it is possible to do, and it is done routinely.

It is not something normally done in a speaker enclosure, and I have never seen a removable speaker panel that had the same stiffness as a wall fully glued to the adjacent walls and internal stiffeners.

However, if you wanted to explore this possibility, we might be able to design a removable panel that maintained the stiffness of a solid wall. Thoughts?
Just don't ask help from Boeing engineers...

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Seriously, front panel frame structure is also a good source for extra diffractions. It must be made and tested carefully
 
I was thinking about exactly that. But how to connect the halves? Threaded rods?
I am not a fan of threaded rode as they form a resonator. But if taken care of that, why not.
What is important on a joint is to mount it "wet", iow no air between the flanges. In the past mounting vibration sensors on rotating equipment was in the form of an M16 bolt.
Mounting dry or wet(little bit of grease) made quite a difference. Same with record players (way past ;-)) , it made a difference.
 
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Well that rules out my help ;) ... I was 30 years at Boeing on military aircraft...

Aircraft are one of those products where engineering and manufacturing can do a million things right, and one thing wrong... and the only thing that matters is the one thing we got wrong...

My "Boeing story:"

Nearly a decade ago, I built a cluster of computers for them. I did the implementation, the configuration, the whole nine yards. It was just me (a contractor) and another dude at Boeing. We set up the entire thing.

About a year later, a recruiter from Boeing contacted me. They were looking to hire someone. They had a list of requirements which was clearly sourced from someone in management who wasn't familiar with the project.

From the job description, it was obvious that they were hiring someone to maintain the cluster THAT I BUILT FOR THEM.

Told the interviewer in human resources that I literally built the cluster that they were looking to find someone to maintain. On the entire planet, there was nobody who knew it better than me.

The recruiter seemed to have rocks in their head, and as I described this, they continued rattling off a series of "nice to haves" for the position. For instance, the hiring manager wanted someone who "knew Java." I'm not a Java programmer, and there's literally zero lines of code in that project that were written in Java. Most of it was Python; I know Python well.

Eight weeks later, one of my coworkers quit. Boeing had hired him. He'd never worked on the project at all.

Moral of this story: if you're looking for a job in tech, and you fail the interview, don't feel bad. The people in human resources have rocks in their head.
 
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If made passive at the end, the choice of the filter passive parts quality migth be a part of the quality the drivers deserve, imho. Look forward to see the devlopment with the good fluid skills. In a dev I made but didn't finished yet due to time problems, one of the trade off choice was a double layer front baffle. The inside one being structuraly a box panel with its internal couplings. the top front panel side had to be on a flex glue à la Syca FC11 or equivalent. the drivers being screwed on this front panel only, story to damp more the cabinet vibrations. Certainly a detail VS a sota filter and WG design and integration with the midwoofer.

I also wonder about how the spead of the 34A will sounds VS a said "better" 25B narower directivity in a WG as well...
 
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If made passive at the end, the choice of the filter passive parts quality migth be a part of the quality the drivers deserve, imho.
Maybe, I am not generally pre disposed to pick passive but I am not against them either. If I want anyone else to build one then I would have to design a passive crossover. I don't have a store of passive parts to play cut and try with either. I like to use quality parts but I am well past the point of ascribing magical sound quality to specific parts, I will leave that to others.
I also wonder about how the spead of the 34A will sounds VS a said "better" 25B narower directivity in a WG as well...
Me too, one day I might be able to tell you what I think, I have a pair of T-25B's as well.

hello @fluid can you show us vituixcad system response? I assume you simulated already?
Sorry I can't because I haven't, Vituix will be getting real data this time :)
 
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If fluid can get me some waveguides I'd definitely work on the passive. I have the stock of parts too.
Do you have a pair of the Aluminium 6.5 Purifi drivers? For now I can print reliably in ABS. There is a nice looking riser on Printables that smooths out the filament path and relocates the filament sensor. The stock position creates a horrible path for the filament to have to go through and is no doubt part of the unreliability of CF filaments.
I've been deep for long enough in actives all I prefer is the simplicity of 1 amp now
I have a similar feeling, much easier to avoid ground loops too. The Purifi application note shows how a passive notch can be used as part of a crossover without too many parts. The T34A on the waveguide should also be relatively easy to passively filter but that remains to be seen.
 
Yeah I have the 4ohm alu 6.5 drivers, and the paper 4 ohm too. My current speakers use sealed papers with a waveguided sb26adc, crossing to subs. I been waiting for the purifi tweeter to build something ported 2 way with the alu 6.5's, but happy to play around with the T34A's I've had for years instead.

I have read the purifi app notes and have already played around with those notch filters on the alu woofer in test boxes.
 
How do you intend to optimize the geometry then?
The geometry is optimized for the waveguide, with wide directivity designs the box shape has more influence on the best waveguide profile. For the woofer the aim is to keep the directivity from the box as low as possible. The simpllest way to do that is to round the corners as much as possible. The box is shallower than it is wide so the box shape will not cause any problems to the goal.

I simulate to find the answers to things I don't know, not to confirm what I already know.
My current speakers use sealed papers with a waveguided sb26adc, crossing to subs.
Sealed passive would work for that situation, but for lots of use cases the drivers end up needing to be ported or use passive radiators to get the bass level up. I am not inclined to make a vented speaker for my own use which is why I was leaning towards sealed and active. Of course EQ could be used in a sealed passive speaker but that makes it a bit awkward. I did buy some ports to try a damped vent similar to what Troels did with one of his Purifi designs. I might need to make my first test box flexible so I can try a few options out.
 
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