No, I would use the usual technique, either with a sine sweep or MLS (arbitrarily long) - I would simply get to the impulse response and that's the best way how to do it.
Do you have control over the integration time?
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If the rectangular guiding curve equals the total diameter, it is a waste of material and the waveguide will dominate the baffle. Overall production is more expensive and mounting tedious. If the rectangular guiding curve was the size of the cut sides, termination is unnecessarliy lost for a huge total area.But what's the difference if you make it rectangular instead? It would be almost the same.
I don't know what you mean by integration time. The IR will be truncated (windowed) at the first reflection and then used as such, most probably significantly zero-padded to much bigger length. But I have no clue if that answers your question.I know that. I suppose your integration time is less than 500us then.
I'm not sure that needs to be a problem.The impedance will change in a channel with damping? If yes, that changes reactive parts and thus timing?
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I printed a 1" scaled version of the 4 fane plug on my 0.2mm nozzle and tested it against a similar size horn.I still have to make a horn for testing. There's always something else one has to do...
Blue is a straight up axisymmetric OSSE, red is the throat plug cousin.
The secondary curves are THD plots
It's interesting to see how the plug gracefully deals with the breakup at 18.5kHz and improves loading and thd in the 700hz region
As a side note I have to meantion that there was a bit of stringing on the phase plug print (which might act like dr. Geddes' foam)
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On as side note:
I'm trying to compare simulation vs measurement contour plots. I get weird results when I try to normalize my measurements in VACS, therefore I EQed in order to get a more or less flat response.
I'm trying to compare simulation vs measurement contour plots. I get weird results when I try to normalize my measurements in VACS, therefore I EQed in order to get a more or less flat response.
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Those are interesting results. I suspect that the throat acoustic impedance has a large peak around 700 Hz and gets quite low above that (which would indicate quite a strong reflection at the plug/wg interface), otherwise I have no explanation for the behaviour shown. With four vanes I wouldn't expect such clean response at high frequencies, you obviously managed to print the walls thin enough. Great contribution!
Did you have a chance to measure directivities?
Did you have a chance to measure directivities?
Here are the measurements,
However when I import them in VACS, and do the fourier, the graph seems a bit different...
And it's with more or less the same window
However when I import them in VACS, and do the fourier, the graph seems a bit different...
And it's with more or less the same window
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Make sure you select the 'curve in x-graph' as the reference mode, with the degree marker set to zero. Luckily, I already have this in my clipboard from posting in another threadOn as side note:
I'm trying to compare simulation vs measurement contour plots. I get weird results when I try to normalize my measurements in VACS, therefore I EQed in order to get a more or less flat response.
Thanks, that seems to work marvelously at HF. I would be especially interested in a comparison with a 1" throat without the plug.Here are the measurements
There's some reflection at 1.2 ms but probably it doesn't affect the results too much.
- BTW, I'm writing an App Note and I've already devised a name for the device: ESP (External Shaping Plug)
Mabat,
another question. I am considering to slightly limit the vertical dimensions of the waveguide and make it elliptical. This i due to available baffle space. I use the typical -X*sin(p)^2 modifier.
Is it possible to still enforce a determinate outside shape to the waveguide? This question stems from the question of replaceability. A circular waveguide has an outside diameter and that is it. It can easily be exchanged, if one learns about flaws. It has a standard shape. Can I do something like this when I make the waveguide symmetrical on two axes, too?
another question. I am considering to slightly limit the vertical dimensions of the waveguide and make it elliptical. This i due to available baffle space. I use the typical -X*sin(p)^2 modifier.
Is it possible to still enforce a determinate outside shape to the waveguide? This question stems from the question of replaceability. A circular waveguide has an outside diameter and that is it. It can easily be exchanged, if one learns about flaws. It has a standard shape. Can I do something like this when I make the waveguide symmetrical on two axes, too?
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