NiceAlso place fuse to the secondary side of your power supply, the SCR circuit will self-destruct at 62V DC input. (if your area has unstable mains). The TVS diode will start to conduct at 53V DC so it will catch some DC transients. (So don't worry
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What fuse would you recommend Lester please?
Listening to this track last night
https://open.spotify.com/track/00XoyOnSy2QjEr4p9kis1I?si=ISIANwKbTb6lfrIDeOts8A
And the tune after ...called Arctica
I heard some slight cicks in the upper registers. It is a very 'tinkly' album st times and so I wandered if they are just part of the music that I havent noticed before but then I thought they sounded a bit like DC clicks....although not heavy ones.
Would this have anything to do with the TVS diode you mention?
I can easily swap out the ideal rectifier for the traditional one for testing.
I thought the amp was sounding great though with maybe better bass than my 3e board. You're comment on the inductors on your very 1st 3255.....look like the same Sagami type as on my 3e board and yeas they got really warm on mine too. This morning having been powered up for 18 hours and sitting idle overnight the inductors and big caps on your board are barely above ambient to touch and the chip heatsink is barley warm. Good signs. Especially given the higher input voltage over what I used with the 3e.
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@JLesterP
I am going to order TPA3251 PFFB amp board kit,
May I know how to choose between different inductor values (6.8uH vs 10uH)? I mostly use 8ohms full range speakers in stereo setup, and power efficiency is not my concerning.
What is the maximum diameter of the 4 tank caps?
Thank You.
I am going to order TPA3251 PFFB amp board kit,
May I know how to choose between different inductor values (6.8uH vs 10uH)? I mostly use 8ohms full range speakers in stereo setup, and power efficiency is not my concerning.
What is the maximum diameter of the 4 tank caps?
Thank You.
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I suggest that you get the 6.8uH VER2923-682KL for 36V supply.
Here's my TPA3251 with coilcraft 6.8uH. Latest shipment will have all the mods applied so no need to modify any values. I configured it such that the PFFB sound will not deviate much from non-PFFB, just improvement in high registers and slightly softer sound.
@Pete
PFFB works with 6.8uH without any modifications, though I just tested it on 36V to 41V.
Few months ago using 6.8uH + 0.68uF. I changed c_fb_out to 1nf and osc freq to 600kHz (same with slaa788a) and it didn't work.
With c_fb_out to 220pF and osc freq to 450kHz, 6.8uH + 0.68uF works well.
Regards,
Lester
Here's my TPA3251 with coilcraft 6.8uH. Latest shipment will have all the mods applied so no need to modify any values. I configured it such that the PFFB sound will not deviate much from non-PFFB, just improvement in high registers and slightly softer sound.
@Pete
PFFB works with 6.8uH without any modifications, though I just tested it on 36V to 41V.
Few months ago using 6.8uH + 0.68uF. I changed c_fb_out to 1nf and osc freq to 600kHz (same with slaa788a) and it didn't work.
With c_fb_out to 220pF and osc freq to 450kHz, 6.8uH + 0.68uF works well.
Regards,
Lester
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What fuse would you recommend Lester please?
You can use 10A to 12A slow blow fuse.
Make sure that faston connections to wires are not just crimped but also soldered.
For speaker connections make sure that they are tight, else you will experience some turntable-like scratch noise.
@JLesterP
What is the maximum diameter of the 4 tank caps?
Thank You.
Max dia is 18mm, min voltage 50V
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What uF are the bipolar caps currently selected? "Option A" currently showing 22 uF, still the current spec?
And where do we stand on adjustable gain for the TPA3255 units you are restocking with?
I will update actual pic for partially assembled tpa3251 module which will show correct parts.
The upcoming module with split supply will use 10uF Elna Silmic II on the inputs.
It will have a fixed gain of 1.5x. No adjustable gain, so users should desolder the 0603 resistors to change the gain.
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Update, sound test first before measurements.
Lester: is this a picture of the upcoming module with split supply?
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Lester: is this a picture of the upcoming module with split supply?
Yes the module has a split supply. I used TPA3251 chip. Hopefully before March I can submit this for review (if ASR accepts
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Yes the module has a split supply. I used TPA3251 chip. Hopefully before March I can submit this for review (if ASR accepts).
Could you please hold my tpa3251 kit order? I want to wait this split supply version.
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Could you please hold my tpa3251 kit order? I want to wait this split supply version.
Split supply version is still in development phase. (only one module has been assembled)
If it's ok with you, it will be delayed by 2 to 3 weeks + higher pricing.
Thanks,
Lester
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1st pic - left channel
2nd pic - right channel
I will investigate the lower 2nd and 4th harmonic on left channel.
I placed a clamp meter in the speaker out to make sure that I'm getting 5W at 4 ohms. (1.1 Amperes)
I haven't upgraded my soundcard interface so I'm not sure if this will be the final result.
But I think the THD+N performance will breach 100dB (or better) at 5W 4 ohms.
2nd pic - right channel
I will investigate the lower 2nd and 4th harmonic on left channel.
I placed a clamp meter in the speaker out to make sure that I'm getting 5W at 4 ohms. (1.1 Amperes)
I haven't upgraded my soundcard interface so I'm not sure if this will be the final result.
But I think the THD+N performance will breach 100dB (or better) at 5W 4 ohms.
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Ah, man, I don't have hot tweezers.I will update actual pic for partially assembled tpa3251 module which will show correct parts.
The upcoming module with split supply will use 10uF Elna Silmic II on the inputs.
It will have a fixed gain of 1.5x. No adjustable gain, so users should desolder the 0603 resistors to change the gain.
Re: input caps, would they see any reverse voltage whatsoever?
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So you’re creating split supply boards for both 3255 & 3251 chips?
Pete
I'll just put options for both
They will have the same PFFB config (I already found best sounding config), just have to replace TVS and zener diodes for 36V and 48V versions.
Whew! Definitely can't be disappointed at all with this, seems like you're getting pretty much to the limit of the chip.1st pic - left channel
2nd pic - right channel
I will investigate the lower 2nd and 4th harmonic on left channel.
I placed a clamp meter in the speaker out to make sure that I'm getting 5W at 4 ohms. (1.1 Amperes)
I haven't upgraded my soundcard interface so I'm not sure if this will be the final result.
But I think the THD+N performance will breach 100dB (or better) at 5W 4 ohms.
When you say "speaker out", are you actually using a speaker as your load? You need to make sure, if you haven't already, that the impedance is measured accurately at your driving frequency then.
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I'm using a resistive dummy load for testing. What worries me is that when I put the test leads right at the module, I'm getting the best THD. But when I put the test leads at the dummy load, the performance is getting worse. Maybe when I send this to ASR, it will have worse performance (like AIYIMA A07) lol.
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