SMPS for small signal analog circuits

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Thank you nec3 for this invaluable tip! The problem is that SMPS above this ie: 30v rating is quite expensive almost impossible to source in this small foot print! Are there any other workabouts around this? say using a "buck booster"?

Would using 7815/7915 instead solve this?

This psu is only for a headphone pre amp, therefore I can perhaps run it on reduced voltages of +/- 10v I suppose with less dynamic range? I could even use a TLE2426 rail splitter instead as originally planned?



Thanks
 
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Thank you nec3 for this invaluable tip! The problem is that SMPS above this ie: 30v rating is quite expensive almost impossible to source in this small foot print! Are there any other workabouts around this? say using a "buck booster"?

Would using 7815/7915 instead solve this?

Thanks

As i know, most SMPS sold in the market have an variable resistors to adjust the output voltage a few volts higher/lower than the nominal.


Using A buck booster to increase 24v would increase the total cost more than a new 28v SMPS. So, not cost effective.

"Would using 7815/7915 instead solve this?"

I did not understand what you mean here.

---What is your need for output currents ?
 
This psu is only for a headphone pre amp, therefore I can perhaps run it on reduced voltages of +/- 10v I suppose with less dynamic range? I could even use a TLE2426 rail splitter instead as originally planned?

If 10v is ok, then worth to try, even better 9v giving another one volt for safety gap.

If your current need is around 20mA (per its datasheet), TLE2426 would do all. No need for linear regulators.

Also consider AndrewT's suggestion above.
 
...using 7815/7915 instead of the 7812/7912 just a stupid thought on my part!

Yes, I agree to both your suggestions. It has to drive a single NE5532 or an OPA2132, which requires 15 & 5mA? respectively both in a headphone & a phono preamp. I've not decided which chip to use...but more inclined towards the OPA '32. However, I am not sure which one of these would be the most suitable in a phono pre amp?

Ideally, I'd like the full +/-15v supply for the phono pre, so I could go all linear with a 100mA/15-0-15 v transformer which I think I have somewhere!
 
Buck booster;

Red module: 3.5-28V to 1.25-26V $ 3.95 + free shipping
Blue module : input 3V -30V Output: 0.5-30V/3A(MAX)module :$ 1.08 + free shipping too!
 

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...using 7815/7915 instead of the 7812/7912 just a stupid thought on my part!

Yes, I agree to both your suggestions. It has to drive a single NE5532 or an OPA2132, which requires 15 & 5mA? respectively both in a headphone & a phono preamp. I've not decided which chip to use...but more inclined towards the OPA '32. However, I am not sure which one of these would be the most suitable in a phono pre amp?

Ideally, I'd like the full +/-15v supply for the phono pre, so I could go all linear with a 100mA/15-0-15 v transformer which I think I have somewhere!

A power supply consisting of "a 100mA/15-0-15 v transformer", a bridge rectifier, a 7815/7915 and four electrolitic caps would be best (to me). No SMPS, no switching noise, no buck convertor, no rail splitter...

NE5532 is more common in audio circuits.
 
A power supply consisting of "a 100mA/15-0-15 v transformer", a bridge rectifier, a 7815/7915 and four electrolitic caps would be best (to me). No SMPS, no switching noise, no buck convertor, no rail splitter...

Aaaaaaargh!!!!!!!

The 7815/7915 are really inferior compared to the LM317/LM337 set for 15V, and the latter inferior compared to the Linear Tech LT1963A/LT3015.

Here's part of the problem -- the error amp circuitry in these (7815/LM317 etc) regulators is too slow and imparts its harmonics (THD) onto the supply rails -- so peakish material slogs.

The new switching regulators are designed for cell-phones and have remarkably low switching noise.
 
Careful with that. What Hypex calls an SMPS lacks line regulation and hence isn't really an SMPS in the usual sense.

Then "usual sense" is false. SMPS in official sense can be regulated or unregulated it doesn't matter at all. Strictly a traditional transformer+diode+filter also operates is switch mode (since diode has only 2 conduction states: blocking and conducting). That Hypex PSU is an SMPS undoubtfully.

If you search back through Bruno's early posts here there are some hints as to the though processes behind this but it's not at all clear why Hypex uses a voltage divider (or equivalent) in the feedback loop to set the output voltage rather than a voltage reference.

The reason is: almost surely it is a fixed frequency, resonant, zero power switching converter, hence there is no way controlling transfer ratio without sacrificing more important parameters like low EMI noise and low power loss. Why do you think there is feedback at all?

Such converters can be controlled a little by changing frequency, but to maintan significant controllability high reactant power must be circulating inside, so choosing not to control at all is a reasonable decision in case of an SMPS designed for audio power amplifiers.
 
Aaaaaaargh!!!!!!!

The 7815/7915 are really inferior compared to the LM317/LM337 set for 15V, and the latter inferior compared to the Linear Tech LT1963A/LT3015.

Here's part of the problem -- the error amp circuitry in these (7815/LM317 etc) regulators is too slow and imparts its harmonics (THD) onto the supply rails -- so peakish material slogs.

The new switching regulators are designed for cell-phones and have remarkably low switching noise.

You may be right about the new IC's.. I did not compare them.

However, the worst linear power supply when designed carefully is still better than any switching supplies considering the cost, time needed for design, mtbf, working life and noise.
 
I just switched on the TLE2426 v.earth psu circuit using 2 x 9v batteries in series and it works, albeit + 9.26 & - 9.34 volts respectively. I Then replaced it with a 1A/24v SMPS psu and the TLE just got fried! The SMPS is isolated as far as I can tell (I can 't detect any connections between the input and output) I wonder if this is due to the TLE is sourcing/sinking more current ie:> 20mA or the SMPS is frying it on power up?

The h.phone pre section wasn't connected when I did this, hence no additional current was being drawn apart from an indicator LED through a 10K resistor!

Any ideas as to why this happened?
 
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